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Aspoestertjie
September 3rd, 2008, 02:28 PM
And I thought I heard almost everything by now. Gosh the people in this country (SA) does not stop to surprise me.

Hunt on for female rape gang
03/09/2008 22:36 - (SA)

Johannesburg - North West police were searching on Wednesday for four women in Rustenburg said to be targeting male hitchhikers and raping them.

Constable Botshelo Mothutsane said the women reportedly offer lifts to male hitchhikers, force them at gunpoint to drink a spiked juice and then rape them.

"They then rob the men of their belongings and leave them in isolated areas," said Mothutsane.

On Monday, another man woke up to find himself stranded and naked in Phokeng after he was given a lift. He was allegedly raped and robbed of R3 700.

Mothutsane said a case of rape and armed robbery was being investigated. Similar cases have been reported in recent months in Rustenburg.

Hunt on for female rape gang (http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2387617,00.html)

Amazing isn't it?

Trendem
September 3rd, 2008, 03:47 PM
How exactly do these women "rape" their victims?

Stormer
September 3rd, 2008, 04:40 PM
I thought technically "rape" was forced intercourse? Did they spike his drink with viagra or something?

I mean I realise they could do other things to him, but woldn't this be sexual assault?

Still, this is another horror story further reinforcing the notion of how bad SA has become.

Stormer

Snoop
September 3rd, 2008, 04:49 PM
How exactly do these women "rape" their victims?I can think of several scenerio's:


he was repeatedly sodomized with a dildo
he was forced to use his tongue over and over
he was deluged with female orgasmic juice and/or urine and/or feces
Well, you asked.

Stormer
September 3rd, 2008, 04:57 PM
I can think of several scenerio's:


he was repeatedly sodomized with a dildo
he was forced to use his tongue over and over
he was deluged with female orgasmic juice and/or urine and/or feces
Well, you asked.

:wtf:

Woudln't this still amount to sexual assault rather than technically rape?

I could be wrong...

Stormer

KevinBrowning
September 3rd, 2008, 08:37 PM
Depends on S. Africa's definition of rape. In Texas sexual assault is forcible penetration of the vagina, anus or mouth with a body part or object.

Aspoestertjie
September 3rd, 2008, 10:01 PM
I seriously don't know what they regard as rape. I also don't know exactly what they did to rape them and if like Stormer said they spiked their drinks. I will keep close tabs on the issue and post any updates about it here.

What is important though is that they do this while pointing a gun to the poor guys, so they don't have much of a choice. And what makes it even more worse is that men can not control an erection, or so I think anyway. Even if he doesn't want to he will still get an erection.

Tarja
September 3rd, 2008, 10:18 PM
I seriously don't know what they regard as rape. I also don't know exactly what they did to rape them and if like Stormer said they spiked their drinks. I will keep close tabs on the issue and post any updates about it here.

What is important though is that they do this while pointing a gun to the poor guys, so they don't have much of a choice. And what makes it even more worse is that men can not control an erection, or so I think anyway. Even if he doesn't want to he will still get an erection.

The definition of rape varies from country to country, I think. I have often wonder how a woman can rape a man, if the charge is one of sexual penetration, and no sex toy of any sort was used, how does a woman go about sexually penetrating a man? It's physically impossible.
The US, I believe, will file charges of sexual assault when a man rapes a woman with his fingers. Here in Australia it is classed as digital rape, which is just as serious as your 'regular' rape. The US law is rather confusing as it leads me to believe that a woman cannot rape another woman, and a woman cannot rape a man. Perhaps someone can clear that up.

You are right, Aspo, men can't control an erection any more than women can control her arousal. Some women will orgasm during a rape. Doesn't mean they like it, just that their bodies have a mind of their own.

Hopefully they find these women responsible. Do you know if the penalty for rape when you are a woman is less than the penalty of rape if you were a woman? How does your court system see women accused of rape? I imagine that many times, the case would never proceed to court because many people do not believe a woman can physically rape a man.:undecided:

Aspoestertjie
September 4th, 2008, 12:23 AM
How exactly do these women "rape" their victims?


Here is a more detailed article.

Women 'kidnap, rape' man
29/07/2008 09:36 - (SA)

Linda de Beer, Beeld

Johannesburg - Rustenburg police are looking for three women who apparently held a 53-year-old man for three days and raped him.

The man was allegedly forced to drink a cool drink believed to have been spiked with a sex drug. The women then each took turns to rape him, Rustenburg police spokesperson Constable Dipuo Modiko said on Monday.

According to the man's statement to police, he was walking to Kroondal outside Rustenburg last Tuesday when three women in a black BMW stopped next to him. He accepted their offer of a lift.

The women said they first wanted to stop for fuel when their victim asked why they had driven past Kroondal. Then a firearm was pointed at him. He was ordered to lie down on the back seat and a blanket was thrown over his head.

"The man claims they stopped at a secluded spot at a house without a roof. He had to drink the cool drink that was offered to him. Then he was undressed. One woman took out a condom and had sex with him. The other two were next," said Modiko.

According to the man, he was released early on Friday morning. He had to get into the car and was dropped off next to the road. A passer-by picked him up and took him to the police station. The women apparently took his cellphone, R230, his ID document, keys and work card.

Women kidnap, rape man (http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2365919,00.html)

So they did spike his drink, probably with Viagra.

I just wonder how desperate these women are. I mean it is quite sick to say the least.

Tarja
September 4th, 2008, 01:14 AM
I find it sickening that they could go to such lengths just to have sex. Kidnapping, drugging and raping someone because you want a thrill?
As a woman, I find it shameful that women could actually be so evil as to do something like this.

Aspoestertjie
September 4th, 2008, 05:20 AM
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]The definition of rape varies from country to country, I think. I have often wonder how a woman can rape a man, if the charge is one of sexual penetration, and no sex toy of any sort was used, how does a woman go about sexually penetrating a man? It's physically impossible.

This is the definition for rape in South Africa

Defining rape

South African common law defines rape as "unlawful, intentional sexual intercourse with a woman without her consent". In terms of this definition men cannot be raped, while forced anal or oral penetration, or penetration with sticks, bottles and knives is categorised as indecent assault and treated as a lesser offence. We would argue that rape is better understood as a sexual assault, and that the current definition be altered to reflect this.

Rape is not caused by lust or an uncontrollable sex drive, as is commonly believed. It is motivated by desires to exert power, to control, to humiliate and to punish. Gang rape is also considered a rite of passage or initiation into gang life. Hence, rape is best described as a crime of violence where sex is used as a means of injuring and harming another.

Rape can happen in the context of a relationship (as in rape within marriage or by a boyfriend, or rape by a family member or friend). It can be perpetrated in the form of stranger rape and gang rape. Its effects are devastating, whatever the context. Most women, particularly in South Africa, live with the fear of rape and curtail their activities accordingly.

Rape in South Africa (http://www.womensnet.org.za/pvaw/organisations/rapein-sa.htm)

According to this definition what these women did is not rape, but rather assault.

So I think they will get off with a lighter sentence in the end.