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Trendem
September 24th, 2008, 05:53 AM
From Time.com (http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1838041,00.html):

Of the 1,323 unique search queries containing "Sarah Palin" over the past four weeks, there were many that you'd normally expect to see regarding a newly named vice-presidential candidate: queries about Palin's biography, for example, her voting record and her stance on abortion. The No. 1 search was simply "Sarah Palin." The next nine most popular search terms that appeared in conjunction with "Sarah Palin" were:

2. Vogue Magazine
3. Photos
4. Beauty Pageant
5. Bio
6. Biography
7. Pictures
8. Scandal
9. Alaska Governor
10. Hot

And if you look more carefully at the 1,300 searches Hitwise tracked, one of the most commonly entered search topics surrounding Palin was "hot photos." (Hitwise search data updates weekly on Mondays, so information on searches related to the news of Palin's pregnant teen daughter, Bristol, were not yet available.) Other queries common to the American public: "Sarah Palin Bikini Photos," "Sarah Palin Naked," "Sarah Palin Nude."
This is seriously disturbing. Something is wrong with the American public and the political system in general if they are more interested in seeing naked photos of their potential future VP (and arguably President). In any other country, "hot naked photos" and "President" just don't go together.

It also begs the question of whether it is appropriate to have a vice-president who is known more for being "hot" than for her policies or abilities.

tinkerbell
September 24th, 2008, 06:00 AM
I would not mind seeing Obama Nude ;0 I looked, I searched...NOTHING!!
However, I agree with you..It's insulting to Palin...and it is scary that people seemed more interested in her bikini line than her Bottom line.

Snoop
September 24th, 2008, 06:03 AM
Yea - I'd rather have a fat ugly broad as VP.

I would never vote for her, but I see nothing wrong with lusting - it's natural - even lesbians like her looks.

Trendem
September 24th, 2008, 06:07 AM
even lesbians like her looks.
Umm, lesbians dig other chicks, so what's so special about them liking Palin's looks?

Whistlepig
September 24th, 2008, 06:11 AM
So you're saying that it's wrong to read Palin's politics and see her naked? Why? What's bad about the hotness?

Perhaps the US is actually on the edge of an international political revolution. If other countries see that we have leaders with brains and curves, they'll get jealous and follow us like always.

Hotter politicians = less prudes in the world. Having sexy people who actually matter in the scheme of things will reduce pointless conservative views about sexuality. Basically, it opens people up, which is always a good thing.

Snoop
September 24th, 2008, 06:11 AM
Umm, lesbians dig other chicks, so what's so special about them liking Palin's looks?If she was ugly they wouldn't like her. The point is that we Americans are sex maniacs - plain and simple.

ladyphoenix
September 24th, 2008, 06:17 AM
This is seriously disturbing. Something is wrong with the American public and the political system in general if they are more interested in seeing naked photos of their potential future VP (and arguably President). In any other country, "hot naked photos" and "President" just don't go together.

It also begs the question of whether it is appropriate to have a vice-president who is known more for being "hot" than for her policies or abilities.

Come now, Trendem. Consider the fundamental differences between men and women and their "sexuality." In the vast majority of cases, men are visual animals, when it comes to being "turned-on." Which is why men porn addicts are way more prevalent than women porn addicts. It's TOTALLY reasonable to think that as soon as a woman came into the spotlight, that was going to happen. It's inevitable. And, it happens everywhere. Don't just throw this in the face of the US. All people are dirty as hell. Ever watch Japanese porn? Oh my god. Make us depraved Americans look like saints.

Whistlepig
September 24th, 2008, 06:18 AM
If she was ugly they wouldn't like her. The point is that we Americans are sex maniacs - plain and simple.

I challenge you to prove that Americans are any more sexually active than anyone else.

Snoop
September 24th, 2008, 06:20 AM
I challenge you to prove that Americans are any more sexually active than anyone else.I never said what you just said - I just said we are sex maniacs, and proud of it.

Autolykos
September 24th, 2008, 06:23 AM
That's right, because when people become political candidates, they cease being flesh-and-blood human beings and become Larger Than Life. Thus it's Sinful in the Extreme to dare to treat those who have become More Than Human as if they were still Mere Mortals.

Trendem
September 24th, 2008, 06:37 AM
Come now, Trendem. Consider the fundamental differences between men and women and their "sexuality." In the vast majority of cases, men are visual animals, when it comes to being "turned-on." Which is why men porn addicts are way more prevalent than women porn addicts. It's TOTALLY reasonable to think that as soon as a woman came into the spotlight, that was going to happen. It's inevitable. And, it happens everywhere. Don't just throw this in the face of the US. All people are dirty as hell. Ever watch Japanese porn? Oh my god. Make us depraved Americans look like saints.
Really? Is "Angela Merkel nude" a top search term in Germany? Is "Gloria Arroyo naked" a top search term in the Philippines?
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That's right, because when people become political candidates, they cease being flesh-and-blood human beings and become Larger Than Life. Thus it's Sinful in the Extreme to dare to treat those who have become More Than Human as if they were still Mere Mortals.
Did anyone say that in this thread?

Stormer
September 24th, 2008, 06:38 AM
C'mon it could be worse, imagine if the American VP or President looked like our own Prime Minister...

http://www.mfe.govt.nz/publications/about/environz/environz-apr07/images/helen-clark.jpg

:grin:

Seriously though, I don't think there is anything particularly remarkable about this, lets face it, Sarah Palin is not ugly, and she has been thrust into the spotlight. This was bound to happen in this day and age...

No big deal, what matters are her policies and whether or not she gets put in the Oval Office in the first place.

Stormer

cds69
September 24th, 2008, 06:45 AM
It does seem to be a distraction for some. But it is kind of refreshing to have someone like her around to dispell that not-too-far-from-the-truth Republican stereotype of "old white men".

tinkerbell
September 24th, 2008, 06:45 AM
So you're saying that it's wrong to read Palin's politics and see her naked? Why? What's bad about the hotness?
.

I think what Tren is getting at is that people are more fascinated by scandal and gossip than the how capable the candidate is..
It's the American Culture..Have you ever been to Epcot Center, and visited the American Adventure? There is a movie showing all the great things about the American Spirit. In the Beginning we see the images of Settlers, The inventors, the Pioneers the people that overcame hardships and trails..Then it goes on, and the "Hero's" all become Actors, and Sports Figures..What happened to people that stood for things and the people that respected them? What happened to the passion that our forefathers had in this country? The Pride in being an American..I don't know what came first, The Chicken or the Egg so to speak...But, here is this person that MIGHT end up being VP or even President and Americans are more fascinated by her Tits and not so much her experience or qualifications. The sexist part bothers me less than this lack of concern with the matters at hand..Such as the fact that this country is in the middle of a war and we are too busy with the nonsense and funny pages to investigate the story or glance at the front page.

Autolykos
September 24th, 2008, 06:47 AM
Did anyone say that in this thread?

Apparently, you did. :)

Trendem
September 24th, 2008, 06:50 AM
I think what Tren is getting at is that people are more fascinated by scandal and gossip than the how capable the candidate is..
It's the American Culture..Have you ever been to Epcot Center, and visited the American Adventure? There is a movie showing all the great things about the American Spirit. In the Beginning we see the images of Settlers, The inventors, the Pioneers the people that overcame hardships and trails..Then it goes on, and the "Hero's" all become Actors, and Sports Figures..What happened to people that stood for things and the people that respected them? What happened to the passion that our forefathers had in this country? The Pride in being an American..I don't know what came first, The Chicken or the Egg so to speak...But, here is this person that MIGHT end up being VP or even President and Americans are more fascinated by her Tits and not so much her experience or qualifications. The sexist part bothers me less than this lack of concern with the matters at hand..Such as the fact that this country is in the middle of a war..
Exactly, Tink. A couple of members who have posted seem to be under the false impression that I am disturbed because people dared to be sexually interested a politician. I'm not - the disturbing thing lies in the fact that Palin's sex appeal is THE most interesting aspect of her. Either something is wrong with the American people, or something is wrong with the candidate. It would be a sad day for America if your vice president is defined not by her abilities, not by her policies, and not even by her gaffes, but by how good she looks naked.

GoldPhoenix
September 24th, 2008, 07:30 AM
It doesn't surprise, but it still appalls me.

Luckily though, I don't think conservatives are going to call America sexists. Because now this is working in their favor.

thrashee
September 24th, 2008, 07:35 AM
It would be a sad day for America if your vice president is defined not by her abilities, not by her policies, and not even by her gaffes, but by how good she looks naked.

Sad, but true. We can thank both ourselves and our media for this, as every news outlet in the country has been stumbling over both feet to provide as much coverage as possible over Palin. Now if only we could get Anderson Cooper to flash his boyish smile while reporting how Palin emotionally affects his perspective on the news....

Mr. Hyde
September 24th, 2008, 08:42 AM
However, I agree with you..It's insulting to Palin...and it is scary that people seemed more interested in her bikini line than her Bottom line.
I'd say that people seem pretty interested in her...bottom line. ;)

I don't see what the big deal is. I'm sure the same thing happened with Hillary Clinton, or Janet Reno....right? I'm not the only one, right? Right?

Trendem
September 24th, 2008, 08:47 AM
I don't see what the big deal is. I'm sure the same thing happened with Hillary Clinton, or Janet Reno....right? I'm not the only one, right? Right?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Janet_Reno-us-Portrait.jpg/225px-Janet_Reno-us-Portrait.jpg


Janet Reno



Why is a guy doing with a name like "Janet"?

CliveStaples
September 24th, 2008, 09:02 AM
This is seriously disturbing. Something is wrong with the American public and the political system in general if they are more interested in seeing naked photos of their potential future VP (and arguably President). In any other country, "hot naked photos" and "President" just don't go together.

Look, I know women and vaginas make you queasy, but consider the millions of American men that aren't gay.

And do you really think that Israelis aren't googling for hot pix of this candidate:

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2008/09/17/image4454354g.jpg

And we can't help it if very few politicians in other countries are smokin' hot. Just one more reason to live in America, baby.

Trendem
September 24th, 2008, 09:07 AM
Look, I know women and vaginas make you queasy, but consider the millions of American men that aren't gay.
You know, the moment you admitted you were bi, you relinquished all your rights to make gay jokes. We are not laughing with you; we're laughing at you.


And we can't help it if very few politicians in other countries are smokin' hot. Just one more reason to live in America, baby.
Yes, because when people want to get their jollies, they turn to politicians. :idiot2:

CliveStaples
September 24th, 2008, 09:21 AM
You know, the moment you admitted you were bi, you relinquished all your rights to make gay jokes. We are not laughing with you; we're laughing at you.

In a culture promoting bisexuality to the exclusion of heterosexuality to children from a very young age...yes, I think it's possible that I would be shaped into a bisexual.

But if you're claiming I identify here and now as a bisexual...no, I do not.

Which is all completely beside the point, since a bisexual man can poke fun at a homosexual man's aversion to women just as well as a heterosexual man can. I would only "surrender" my "right" to make gay jokes about being attracted to men.

But, hey, logic isn't your strong suit--even after my previous explanation, you still claim that I self-identify as bisexual--so it's cool. Although it is a bit freaky to see a mod (especially one as condescendingly 'broad-minded' as you) go all KKK/homophobic redneck.


Yes, because when people want to get their jollies, they turn to politicians. :idiot2:

Yes, because VP candidates don't get national exposure on television and the internet. So nobody knows what she looks like.

Oh, wait. I meant the opposite of that. So if she's hot...well, people are probably going to google for hot pix.

A popular, attractive woman whose image is splashed all across television and the internet? Why would any person possibly think to google hot pix of her? It's not like the internet is used for porn, or anything prurient in the least, right?

Trendem
September 24th, 2008, 09:35 AM
But, hey, logic isn't your strong suit--even after my previous explanation, you still claim that I self-identify as bisexual--so it's cool. Although it is a bit freaky to see a mod (especially one as condescendingly 'broad-minded' as you) go all KKK/homophobic redneck.
What? Who said I was homophobic?? I accept you for who you are, Clive. :smitten:


Yes, because VP candidates don't get national exposure on television and the internet. So nobody knows what she looks like.

Oh, wait. I meant the opposite of that. So if she's hot...well, people are probably going to google for hot pix.

A popular, attractive woman whose image is splashed all across television and the internet? Why would any person possibly think to google hot pix of her? It's not like the internet is used for porn, or anything prurient in the least, right?
Like others, you miss the point. I'm not saying that it is unthinkable people would google for hot pics of an attractive candidate. I'm saying that it is disturbing when her looks become her most interesting characteristic, as characterised by the number of top search terms relating to that aspect of her. As I said before, either something's wrong with the public, or something's wrong with the candidate.

Whistlepig
September 24th, 2008, 09:40 AM
Is it really that disturbing that people would rather see a chick's tits than hear her talk about government policy? I expect such idiocy from humans, which is why democracy should be limited to those who can prove themselves worthy of voting rights. A person should not be able to vote just because he/she happened to spawn in the region.

thrashee
September 24th, 2008, 09:50 AM
I expect such idiocy from humans, which is why democracy should be limited to those who can prove themselves worthy of voting rights.

I'm all ears to hear some suggestions on how you might begin implementing such an exclusive system.

CliveStaples
September 24th, 2008, 10:10 AM
Is it really that disturbing that people would rather see a chick's tits than hear her talk about government policy? I expect such idiocy from humans, which is why democracy should be limited to those who can prove themselves worthy of voting rights. A person should not be able to vote just because he/she happened to spawn in the region.

I guess maybe you're unfamiliar with the American system of democracy. It isn't about where you were born; it's where you legally reside. Someone who was born in, say, Dublin, can still cast a vote if he becomes an American citizen. And someone who was born in, say, New York, doesn't get to vote in New York elections or ballots if she moves to Sandusky, Ohio.

And what makes you think that people are more interested in seeing her tits than hear her talk about government policy? There are many avenues for seeing her talk about government policy--newspapers, news sites, interviews, etc. But the internet skews toward porn. Not everyone uses the internet to the exclusion of any other information source, so simply taking google searches as a barometer of how Americans think of Palin is flawed.

And guess what? You live among humans. Humans actually get sexually aroused--"horny"--on occasion. In this state of arousal--or "horniness"--people sometimes prefer sexual stimulation to political discourse. Shockingly.


What? Who said I was homophobic?? I accept you for who you are, Clive. :smitten:

Really? Then why are you accusing me of self-identifying as bisexual? If you accepted me for who I am, then you'd stop this line of bullsh*t. Of course, that would require you to have an ounce of decency.


Like others, you miss the point. I'm not saying that it is unthinkable people would google for hot pics of an attractive candidate. I'm saying that it is disturbing when her looks become her most interesting characteristic, as characterised by the number of top search terms relating to that aspect of her. As I said before, either something's wrong with the public, or something's wrong with the candidate.

First, to suggest that something's "wrong" with Palin because of how other people view her is preposterous. Unless you're accusing her of "asking for it"--apparently, by simply being attractive.

Second, Palin isn't exactly an unknown. People have been bombarded by articles, interviews, and speeches that communicate Palin's political views. So going out and actually searching for those views is largely unnecessary.

Third, the internet skews toward porn. As the saying goes, "If there was no porn on the interent, there would only be one website. And it would be a petition to bring back porn."

Fourth, nude pictures of Sarah Palin is a much more shocking, titillating item (especially to young, heterosexual men) than how many foreign countries she's visited, or her opinion about the balance between government intervention and the market's ability to allocate sufficient assets to cover short-sells.

Fifth, the people looking up "Sarah Palin nude" are probably mostly young men. And young people are notoriously disinterested in participating in politics (just look at the voting numbers). If your point is that young people need to get more involved in politics, welcome to the last thirty years of political strategy.

Whistlepig
September 24th, 2008, 10:20 AM
I am aware that foreigners can gain US citizenship because I haven't been locked in a closet since 1522. It seems that you're splitting hairs because that wasn't my point anyway. I often associate 'citizen' with 'born citizen' so maybe I could have clarified, but even that is immaterial. I simply stated that I believe voting rights should be earned.

Standardized testing on intelligence should decide who votes and who doesn't. Dummies shouldn't be allowed to vote.

cds69
September 24th, 2008, 10:28 AM
Standardized testing on intelligence should decide who votes and who doesn't. Dummies shouldn't be allowed to vote.

We'd all pass. The dummies are running for office.

CliveStaples
September 24th, 2008, 10:32 AM
I am aware that foreigners can gain US citizenship because I haven't been locked in a closet since 1522. It seems that you're splitting hairs because that wasn't my point anyway. I often associate 'citizen' with 'born citizen' so maybe I could have clarified, but even that is immaterial. I simply stated that I believe voting rights should be earned.

Standardized testing on intelligence should decide who votes and who doesn't. Dummies shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Why not? People with below-average intelligence shouldn't have a say in how they are governed? They don't deserve to advocate for their interests and beliefs? Seems like you're making them second-class citizens--actually, that's exactly what you're doing.

I disagree with that entire line of thought. I don't think you should have to prove anything to have a say in how you are governed. Of course, if you aren't compis mentis, that's another issue. But having below-average intelligence should not itself disqualify you from having your opinions matter.

Mithran
September 24th, 2008, 10:36 AM
So you're saying that it's wrong to read Palin's politics and see her naked? Why? What's bad about the hotness?
Because people are more likely to trust her because she is hot. I donít have a link right now (later), but its proven psychological fact that people trust good looking people more than they trust ugly people. Itís time for humanity to grow up from such stupidity.



Perhaps the US is actually on the edge of an international political revolution. If other countries see that we have leaders with brains and curves, they'll get jealous and follow us like always.
Are you being sarcastic? Cause if you aren't this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.


Hotter politicians = less prudes in the world. Having sexy people who actually matter in the scheme of things will reduce pointless conservative views about sexuality. Basically, it opens people up, which is always a good thing.
What the hell? All this says is that people vote for people that are attractive because they are biological slaves to their baser selves. I mean they vote for people based on pure emotion instead of reasoned, educated judgment. Just because a person has symmetrical features means nothing to their ability to think. In fact being ugly might be an advantage (I think i may do some research on this) since ugly people have to develop other skills to get a mate since they aren't handed the world on a silver platter.

This is a very BAD thing for the world.

Whistlepig
September 24th, 2008, 11:08 AM
Average intelligence doesn't cut it. You gotta be above average. I believe that average people are terrible at making decisions for themselves, as evidenced by the lives of those I meet every day. They may not be unhappy, but I would say that I enjoy my life 300% more than the average person enjoys theirs because I'm better at deciding what will make me and those around me happy.

So average and below average people shouldn't be allowed to vote because they don't know what they or anyone else really wants.

Tarja
September 24th, 2008, 04:20 PM
This is seriously disturbing. Something is wrong with the American public and the political system in general if they are more interested in seeing naked photos of their potential future VP (and arguably President).

I can see Hugh Hefner perusing all of this, wondering when to invite Palin to pose for a world nude exclusive in Playboy.:grin:

cds69
September 24th, 2008, 06:21 PM
I can see Hugh Hefner perusing all of this, wondering when to invite Palin to pose for a world nude exclusive in Playboy.:grin:

Reagan's daughter posed. I think that crushed him too. Sad.

sylouette
September 24th, 2008, 07:14 PM
I'd say that people seem pretty interested in her...bottom line. ;)

What people would that be.....


.......Hyde?



I don't see what the big deal is. I'm sure the same thing happened with Hillary Clinton, or Janet Reno....right? I'm not the only one, right? Right?


The big deal is that most men can't seem to keep their minds out of the gutter when a good looking woman comes around. Hillary Clinton or Janet Reno are not what 'most' men would consider 'sexy'.

thrashee
September 24th, 2008, 07:20 PM
The big deal is that most men can't seem to keep their minds out of the gutter when a good looking woman comes around. Hillary Clinton or Janet Reno are not what 'most' men would consider 'sexy'.

No, but that doesn't mean we still haven't imagined them with their clothes off. It's just a reflex, I swear. *shudder*

cds69
September 24th, 2008, 08:19 PM
Why is a guy doing with a name like "Janet"?

Found this alert online today:


ALERT!!

If you receive an email titled "Nude Sarah Palin Photos" DO NOT OPEN! It could possibly contain a computer virus.

If you receive an email titled "Nude Hillary Clinton Photos" DO NOT OPEN! It could possibly contain nude Hillary Clinton photos.

Dr Gonzo
September 24th, 2008, 08:25 PM
...But, here is this person that MIGHT end up being VP or even President and Americans are more fascinated by her Tits and not so much her experience or qualifications. The sexist part bothers me less than this lack of concern with the matters at hand..Such as the fact that this country is in the middle of a war and we are too busy with the nonsense and funny pages to investigate the story or glance at the front page.

The number one search was simply "Sarah Palin." On the first page, there are links to pictures, mentions of her Vogue interview, stories about photoshopped pictures, and all sorts of other stuff. When I first googled "Sarah Palin," looking for the meat and potatoes of her background, I saw more links to her, well, meat and potatoes than anything else. One neat tidbit was finding out she was runner-up Miss Alaska 1984, so naturally I did a google image search of her next, a bunch of different ways- "Sarah Palin Miss Alaska," "Sarah Palin 1984," "Sarah Palin Vogue," and about 85 other ways because, well, she's hot, and I wanted to see her in a bikini. Two days later, and we have the infamous photoshopped American flag bikini holding a rifle (which some people on this site, I'm not saying who, used as evidence that she was a bad fit for office).

The last part of your quote is fallacious, as googling Sarah Palin in a bikini does not show a lack of concern of the matters at hand like being in a war. I think about our war a lot, probably more than most on ODN as I am actually fighting it. Every now and then, though, I just want to relax a little, stop thinking about all the horrible ways I could die, and enjoy a nice pair of tits.

Just one guy's opinion.

Aspoestertjie
September 25th, 2008, 12:00 AM
:lol: Trendem, this thread made me giggle big time. I never once in my whole life wanted to see any of our politicians naked. Eeeewwwwwwww Just imagine seeing Zuma naked? Or Mandela? It will kill my appetite immediately. LMAO

Maybe you do have a point that Americans are a little obsessed when it comes to sex, especially the sex/nudity of famous people. Even if we had a sexy President (we are president-less by the way), I will not search on the net for anything about nudity on him because I simply don't see them in that light. I care about their decisions and their leadership ability and how they look has got nothing to do with that.

Hell, I never even did a search on the very hottest guys in SA even. Someone like Ryk Neethling who is famous for his looks. I just don't. First I respect people's privacy too much to even think about it. Secondly I couldn't care less how they look like when they are nude.

Dr Gonzo
September 25th, 2008, 05:46 AM
Well, you're a girl.

Am I allowed to make that argument here? I don't know how much, if any, truth there is to the urban legend that men don't go more than 30 seconds without at least a thought of sex. But if that is true, then, well, you're a girl.