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Zenstone
November 15th, 2004, 06:10 PM
I swear everyone hates me at work. Am I really a big butthole?

Fyshhed
November 15th, 2004, 06:19 PM
I swear everyone hates me at work. Am I really a big butthole?
Yes. I would provide pictures, but this is not necessary. :)

Meng Bomin
November 15th, 2004, 06:35 PM
I only know you over the net, but from what you have shown, no. However, that does not necessarily mean anything about how you act towards your co-workers.

Edit: Perhaps this could be a more constructive community advice thread if I asked the question: why do you think that your co-workers hate you? What do you think would have triggered this response?

KneeLess
November 15th, 2004, 07:38 PM
One thing that I have noticed about you Zenstone, is that your sarcasm is unlimited. I find this trait funny and desirable, but many do not. Or maybe I'm thinking of someone else. I can't be sure. But if this is you, then maybe just toning it down a little might help, it worked for me.

Andacanavar
November 15th, 2004, 11:31 PM
I think you're fine.

But I'm a smartass prick, so take it for what it's worth.

FruitandNut
November 16th, 2004, 12:34 AM
I swear everyone hates me at work. Am I really a big butthole?

As I have been told from time-to-time that I am a pain in one, we should make a great team, Zenstone.

Pains in the ass and buttholes are usually people who question and who challenge authority. They tend to have a well honed bullsh*t detector and 'threaten' the intellect of others. To those who choose to live simple lives uncluttered with knowledge, they are boring farts.

ps. Ever thought you might not be a butthole - just paranoid? (Or am I just getting at you as well!!!!?)

Zhavric
November 16th, 2004, 03:50 AM
"Ehhh... everybody hates me..."

Dude, don't be that guy. No one likes THAT guy.

You can't change other people. You cannot MAKE people like you. You can only change yourself... but chances are that if you try to change to make people like you they'll end up NOT liking you more.

Accept that no one likes you, stop caring, and get the work done.

99.9% of the time you are there with your co-workers to do a job. Being everyone's "chum" is not a prerequisite. Get the work done, go home and hang out with the friends you KNOW like you.

I work on a team where NO ONE gets along. We ALL hate one another, but we get our jobs done. And I don't care if people like me or not. I have my girlfriend waiting for me when the day is over and friends to see on the weekend.

Let me ask you this: when you took the job, did you ask at the job interview, "Will there be cool people to hang out with?" No? What does that tell you?

Again, don't be THAT guy. No one likes THAT guy.

KevinBrowning
November 16th, 2004, 10:32 AM
I swear everyone hates me at work. Am I really a big butthole?

No. You're one of the more diplomatic people here.

Zenstone
November 16th, 2004, 05:27 PM
One thing that I have noticed about you Zenstone, is that your sarcasm is unlimited.
This is a fantastic compliment, thanks!

Zenstone
November 16th, 2004, 05:30 PM
"Ehhh... everybody hates me..."

Dude, don't be that guy. No one likes THAT guy.



Agreed. I am only that guy here, in this thread, which I regret posting. Check my record.

tinkerbell
November 16th, 2004, 05:56 PM
Be that guy..At least here.Better here than elsewhere..
Anyway..Tink likes you, and that's HUGE! So screw everyone else.

Zenstone
November 16th, 2004, 06:00 PM
lol tink. i feel much better now!

Fyshhed
November 16th, 2004, 06:17 PM
Don't screw Fysh. :(

tinkerbell
November 16th, 2004, 06:22 PM
Don't screw Fysh. :(

Come on now! It's the pizza guys turn...AHhh Squish ;)

Fyshhed
November 16th, 2004, 06:28 PM
Come on now! It's the pizza guys turn...AHhh Squish ;)
:D

*has to get a new part-time job now that Tink has revealed him*

uh... milk man! nobody screws the milk man over!
;)

KevinBrowning
November 16th, 2004, 06:40 PM
Agreed. I am only that guy here, in this thread, which I regret posting. Check my record.

Don't regret making the thread, just regret Zhav responding. ;)

KevinBrowning
November 16th, 2004, 06:41 PM
Come on now! It's the pizza guys turn...AHhh Squish ;)

This "squish" thing must be one of the few inside jokes around here I'm not in on. Enlighten me, please.

Fyshhed
November 16th, 2004, 08:40 PM
This "squish" thing must be one of the few inside jokes around here I'm not in on. Enlighten me, please.
Squish.

KevinBrowning
November 16th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Squish.

Yay, I get it now.

FruitandNut
November 17th, 2004, 12:27 AM
Don't screw Fysh. :(

Don't try it with yourself either - you just end up going around in circles - life can be frustrating enough as it is.

Zhavric
November 17th, 2004, 03:42 AM
Don't screw Fysh. :(

I'm reminded of the words of an old room mate of mine who once asked "Is necro ictheophelia really any different?"

mustang5
November 17th, 2004, 06:36 AM
I think you're fine.

But I'm a smartass prick, so take it for what it's worth.

Had me rolling with this one. I would be afraid to pose the same question about myself.

FruitandNut
November 17th, 2004, 06:47 AM
I'm reminded of the words of an old room mate of mine who once asked "Is necro ictheophelia really any different?"

Have you ever been chumming with old ling guts???????

Zhavric
November 17th, 2004, 06:56 AM
I'm sorry, but I don't speak fisherman. What in the heck did you just say?

FruitandNut
November 17th, 2004, 07:29 AM
Chumming is American speak for what we Brits. call 'Rubby Dubby' - ling is a fish that roughly approximates to an elongated codfish. Shark and gamefish anglers often collect the blood and guts and break up the big bits, mixing it all with a little bran to help bulk it out and help 'suspend' the blood. The gory mix is left overnight or in the sun to 'ripen a bit' - the breath is then held while it is ladled over the side and into the water to form an irresistable trail to the big bait on the end of the line.

Zhavric
November 17th, 2004, 07:41 AM
Chumming is American speak for what we Brits. call 'Rubby Dubby' - ling is a fish that roughly approximates to an elongated codfish. Shark and gamefish anglers often collect the blood and guts and break up the big bits, mixing it all with a little bran to help bulk it out and help 'suspend' the blood. The gory mix is left overnight or in the sun to 'ripen a bit' - the breath is then held while it is ladled over the side and into the water to form an irresistable trail to the big bait on the end of the line.

DOOD! We made a fishing thread!

/high fives F&N

KevinBrowning
November 17th, 2004, 08:02 AM
DOOD! We made a fishing thread!

/high fives F&N

*Bans Zhavvy for getting so off-topic.* ;)

FruitandNut
November 17th, 2004, 11:34 AM
I lurves fishin' - better fighting with fish than people. Join a club and you can debate Heaven, Hell and all points in between while you are baiting or waiting for a bite.

PallidaMors
November 17th, 2004, 11:44 AM
Chumming is American speak for what we Brits. call 'Rubby Dubby' - ling is a fish that roughly approximates to an elongated codfish. Shark and gamefish anglers often collect the blood and guts and break up the big bits, mixing it all with a little bran to help bulk it out and help 'suspend' the blood. The gory mix is left overnight or in the sun to 'ripen a bit' - the breath is then held while it is ladled over the side and into the water to form an irresistable trail to the big bait on the end of the line.

I chummed the water whilst scuba diving last week. although I didn't use gore, the little fish were more than happy to oblige...I won't go any deeper than that cause it gets gross from there. hmm, maybe its already gross. yep, probably.

Zen, i think you rock. you arent a butthole. although I tend to like and respect unrestricted nuclear level sarcasm

ShadowKnight
November 17th, 2004, 11:59 AM
I swear everyone hates me at work. Am I really a big butthole?

nah, it's just because you like asians, you and me bro ;)

Slipnish
November 17th, 2004, 01:03 PM
Zen:

No worries. Most of the people I work with hate me too, and my sarcasm is legendary in their minds. I have gotten to the point where I refuse to eat lunch with them any more.

Their idea of intellectual stimulation is cruising the sales ads for lettuce. Screw'em. Zhav is right.

Do the job, go home, and interact with people you actually care about.

FruitandNut
November 18th, 2004, 01:49 AM
the little fish were more than happy to oblige...I won't go any deeper than that cause it gets gross from there. hmm, maybe its already gross. yep, probably.

I beats obliging sheep and plucked chickens, PM. ;)

There, we are back to Zenstone's 'butthole' by a deviant and circuitous route.

Spartacus
November 18th, 2004, 09:26 AM
I swear everyone hates me at work. Am I really a big butthole?

Is this a reverse negative?

Why do you feel the need to ask the people here...we don't work with you...do we?

Zenstone
November 23rd, 2004, 05:52 PM
Why do you feel the need to ask the people here...we don't work with you...do we?

Well, I had to post something. I don't visit the ODN too often anymore.

Because of this thread, I lobbied to put the line "try not to be a big butthole" in our department's mission statement.

geetarcliff
November 29th, 2004, 04:34 PM
Actually, Im going to have to say that I far outweigh anyone on this site as a butthole. and if you dont believe me, read my hate filled nazi-esque rants. Though its all for a good cause....THey're right you know. Screw those bastards at work. You probably have a better chance at reaching the next level then they do. Seriously, you're on ODN all the time. You must be getting smarter......dot dot

geetarcliff
November 29th, 2004, 04:36 PM
The biggest fish I ever caught was a four foot shark, and this was off of a peer, in Galveston Texas. keep in mind that this peer was on the beach. makes you think about how safe the waters are, especially when crazy glass eyed peg legs are chumming the sea like it owes them money.

FruitandNut
November 30th, 2004, 12:21 PM
Caught a 52.5 lb conger eel off Salcombe in Devon, hooked two others over 100 lbs on the same trip, but my 30 class rod was not up to landing them, they just got the clutch screaming and went back down to their wreck. (Won the club 'Conger Cup' that year.) Came close to having a 450 lb mako shark that was taking whiting around a wartime wreck off Falmouth in Cornwall.

ps. Arn't we a tad off beam in regards to buttholes - unless of course, being an angler makes me a butthole.

pps. The conger was about 6ft 6ins in length.

HappyLady
November 30th, 2004, 01:28 PM
Am I really a big butthole?

Yes. Yes you are.

Seriously, why do you think everyone hates you? A few have asked, and you haven't answered. It could be a misperception on your part. Or, it could be true based on the way you act. Until you tell us why you think they hate you, we'll never know.

Interjecting my limited perception of you probably wouldn't help you in the work place. Around this place, you seem less social than the rest, but yet you are still likeable and a strong presence here.

But most people act different in an online community than they do in a "real" community, so it's hard to make any real analysis of you. If you act at work as you act here, I would say it's not that they hate you, but that you keep yourself somewhat detached from them so they can't really get to know the real you. And maybe that detachment keeps you from getting to really know them, too.

So...are you spitting in their coffee cups? Leaving messages on their desks that say, "I know where you sleep...signed Zenstone?" Do you do the Elaine Bennes (Seinfeld) dance at company parties? Why do you think you're a butthole?

Zenstone
December 1st, 2004, 07:12 PM
I've revised my opinion. At work, they must think I'm just a little butthole. They promoted all the big-uns.

Meng Bomin
December 1st, 2004, 07:16 PM
I've revised my opinion. At work, they must think I'm just a little butthole. They promoted all the big-uns. Ok, that's a bit better, but you are still expressing that you are not well-liked at work. This time you gave the reason (I think) that you have not been promoted, while those around you have. There could be many reasons for this. Perhaps they don't like your work ethic, perhaps they don't share your beliefs, perhaps you do your job too well, perhaps they just didn't notice you, or perhaps they just don't like you. Which one do you think is closest, or are none of them close?

Slipnish
December 2nd, 2004, 06:03 AM
Not to sound too self aggrandizing, but I simply hate stupid people, and am forced to work with a ton of them. Unfortunately, my field draws in those that want to nurture and pet which does not take an over abundance of intellect.

I actually had to EXPLAIN the premise behind the Gilligan's Island reality show yesterday. The big question really is, "Why do you care if they hate you?" I think.