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EscraymCroix
June 20th, 2005, 05:31 PM
Understanding history, most military orders became corrupt and fell within a few hundred years after they are founded. Similitarities between Star War's Jedi to Medieval Europe Military orders based on religion are obvious. I dont know. I just thought that was pretty cool. So knowing history. The Jedi should have taken over the senate in Episode III,and ruled the republic with a despotic iron fist. Wich I think would really have happened knowing histor in real life

Iluvatar
June 20th, 2005, 05:35 PM
Consider that the Galactic Empire = Roman Empire. The Old Republic was the old Roman Republic. Then, just as in Rome, it switched to an emperor. Then, eventually fell.

Of course, the Roman Empire had waaaay lamer sword-fights.

Meng Bomin
June 20th, 2005, 08:28 PM
Consider that the Galactic Empire = Roman Empire. The Old Republic was the old Roman Republic. Then, just as in Rome, it switched to an emperor. Then, eventually fell. I see more parallels in the French Second Republic transistion French Second Empire or Hitler's Third Reich than I do with the Roman Empire. However, the Jedi don't really fit into either of those very well. They seem to be both warriors and intellectuals (to a limited extent), and their special powers makes them a bit different than anything in our history, though EC's analogy seems fairly close, as knights were aristocratic and thus one had to be born into the aristocracy to be one, similar to how Jedi had to be born with "force sensitivity".

Harrison383
June 21st, 2005, 05:37 AM
Jedi can best be compared to a warrior monk that helps keep the peace in a small village. Obviously, they don't do that, but for the sake of this argument, why not.

The monk would feel a "calling" to his future path of that particular mind-body philosphy. He/she would devote a majority of his time to studying his craft and philosphies, living a mostly secluded life. He/she could then devote his/her life to the greater society by utilizing their talent to "keep the peace".

Zhavric
June 21st, 2005, 07:02 AM
Understanding history, most military orders became corrupt and fell within a few hundred years after they are founded. Similitarities between Star War's Jedi to Medieval Europe Military orders based on religion are obvious. I dont know. I just thought that was pretty cool. So knowing history. The Jedi should have taken over the senate in Episode III,and ruled the republic with a despotic iron fist. Wich I think would really have happened knowing histor in real life

You find me an episode in European history that involved the equivalent of a Sith Lord infiltrating the highest level of government and orchestrating a war to come to absolute power and I'll agree with you.

The Jedi protected the Republic for THOUSANDS of GENERATIONS. If we call a generation 25 years and say there was at least two thousand that means the Jedi order helped protect the Republic for about FIFTEY THOUSAND YEARS. Fiftey Thousand years ago, humans were just figuring out how to use spears to bring down whooly mamoths.

I agree that the Jedi to bear similarity to certain orders of knights, but I completely reject the notion that the Jedi fell in to corruption or attempted to rule despotically.

Mr. Hyde
June 27th, 2005, 11:51 AM
You find me an episode in European history that involved the equivalent of a Sith Lord infiltrating the highest level of government and orchestrating a war to come to absolute power and I'll agree with you.
The Iraq war? Sith Lord Cheney and his apprentice, Darth Bush(That sounds kinda nasty).

CliveStaples
June 27th, 2005, 02:38 PM
I completely reject the notion that the Jedi fell in to corruption or attempted to rule despotically.

You just love the idea that people acting under color of law have mind-control, don't you, you nanny-state socialist?


The Iraq war? Sith Lord Cheney and his apprentice, Darth Bush(That sounds kinda nasty).

The Sith lords played both sides of the war. Has Bush done so? That's a rather serious claim.

Mr. Hyde
June 27th, 2005, 03:16 PM
The Sith lords played both sides of the war. Has Bush done so? That's a rather serious claim.
It wasn't a serious claim when I made it. :(

But I guess, we sold weapons to IRaq during the Iran conflict or whatever, we backed the Taliban when they fought the Soviets. So it COULD be that the government is more or less a Sith Lord, or that the REAL Sith Lord hasn't yet revealed himself.