View Full Version : Ian Flemming's Casino Royale.

Mr. Hyde
October 30th, 2006, 11:01 AM
Casino Royale (http://www.amazon.com/Casino-Royale-Ian-Fleming/dp/014200202X/sr=1-1/qid=1162231382/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-1337234-7574241?ie=UTF8&s=books) is Ian Flemming's first 007 spy thriller.

Soviet pay master "Le Chiffre" is down 50 million francs and in danger of being killed by his own terrorist organisation. After a number of bungled attempts to reclaim the lost finance, in a desperate move, Le Chiffre heads to the Royale in an attempt to win big using the last 25 million in his possession.

Station S gets word and devises a plan. They employ the charismatic, and ruthlessly cold blooded James Bond, a top notch gambler and world class killer, to beat him at his own game: Baccarat. Funded by the agency, Bond plays move for move against his soviet enemy in an attempt to bankrupt Le Chiffre and force his own terrorist allies to kill him.

I picked this up this morning after work and already, it's UNBELIEVABLY good. Bond is immediately introduced as the savage gentleman we (who enjoy Bond) have come to love. The book is fairly easy to read despite the amount of French that's thrown into it (A fair bit in chapter 2, M even complains about it) and I'm not even half way through it yet. A definite must read.
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Correction, and also a reason never to watch tv while reading. Le Chiffre is not a terrorist or affiliated with a terrorist organization. He's a secret agent for the Soviet Union.

December 1st, 2006, 11:12 AM
How did it compare w/ the movie?

December 1st, 2006, 12:24 PM
Amazingly well. I have seen every Bond movie at least 6 times. Show me a scene from any of those flicks, and I'll nail down the movie instantly (this includes the original Casino Royale and even OHMSS with Lazenby).

Daniel Craig steps on screen and even before the first shell from his PP7 hits the ground, he lets everyone know that he is, and will appearantly be, the Best. Bond. Ever.

Each actor brought something to the role, but no one exactly hit it as Craig did. From the books, Bond is a morose (sp?), brooding, cold-blooded killer seemingly able to anticipate everything. The only joy he gets is from the occasional surprise and turn of fate that works out different than what he expected - when it works out his way. If it doesn't, the obsessive drive to be the best takes over, and he must meet this new development at full tilt until he has made it his.

If you did like Daniel Craig as Bond, check out a movie called Layer Cake. It's a Guy Ritchie-style criminal flick with nearly a hundred twists and turns. Worth a rent.

Mr. Hyde
December 1st, 2006, 05:23 PM
How did it compare w/ the movie?

Like Harrison said, amazingly well.

Or, as the BBC review of the film said, Craig is the first actor to accurately portray on-screen the Bond that Flemming had written.

There were some things that differed.

In the movie they're playing, correct me if I'm wrong, Texas Hold 'Em, whereas in the book they play Baccarat.

Other things vary as well. The people involved in the big game have to have 23 million. Bond is given, I believe, 10 or so million, and has to win the rest. I can't recall exactly, but Bond isn't given all the money from the get-go as he is in the movie, and the amount needed to play is different.

It's small differences, mostly. Not like with a lot of movies where entire portions of books are chopped from the film, IE Nearly Headless Nick's Deathday party in Chamber of Secrets or Bombadil from LOTR.

December 2nd, 2006, 03:31 PM
So was there a woman on a horse with a....what color bikini was that?

Mr. Hyde
December 3rd, 2006, 04:57 AM
So was there a woman on a horse with a....what color bikini was that?

I don't remember.

December 13th, 2006, 08:14 PM
I'm reviving this thread, although, I have already talked with Hyde about it. This was a very good book. I found a great stash of Bond books at a great bookstore in downtown....first editions for some. This was my first Bond book, and I loved it. It wasn't as action packed as I thought it would be, it had depth and really revealed Bond as a person. It showed more than his spy exterior. I thought the movie was written very well. I'm just not sure about Craig, something rubbed me the wrong way about him. They left in the one part I didn't expect them to, but, hoped they would. Leaving it out would have dented the story and ruined the movie for me. Although, it wasn't as played out in the movie as it was in the book. And I didn't stay for the end of the movie, so, if somebody would pm me with the end starting where M gets the call about the millions...I'd appreciate it. All in all the movie was very good, though not as good as the book...but, how often are they? Right now, I'm on From Russia With Love, and my fav so far has been Dr No.

Mr. Hyde
December 14th, 2006, 11:51 AM
where M gets the call about the millions...I'd appreciate it.

Bond rushes to the bank after calling the Swede. He runs into the one-eyed man and a series of thugs. A HUGE gunfight ensues, and ends up in a building with floats in it. Bond shoots the floats, and as the building sinks, fights his way up to Vesper, who's locked in an elevator. She tells Bond she's sorry, and hits a button. The elevator drops into the water, and she drowns. Bond pulls her body out of the water, and sort of cries (I can't quite recall). He talks to M, and M tells him he can take a little while off, and Bond replies, "Why? The job's done. The ***** is dead." The next thing we see is Mr. White walking up to his house only to have Bond call and say, "We need to talk." There's a gunshot and White falls on the ground. When he looks up, Bond is standing over him with an HK-5 and when White asks who he is, Bond replies, "Bond...James Bond." BOOM, roll credits.

December 14th, 2006, 12:17 PM
I am drawing a complete blank on who Mr white and the one eyed guy is

December 14th, 2006, 02:53 PM
I am drawing a complete blank on who Mr white and the one eyed guy is

Did you go to the movie alone? I'm just assuming that's the case since you have nobody else to ask. How about pming Hyde again....I'm sure you two could go on for hours with your shared adoration for 007 books and movies.

December 14th, 2006, 03:10 PM
yeah, I went by myself. Hubby refuses to acknowledge that anyone ever played Bond besides Bronsnan. So, I went by myself, and then, had to leave early to get dressed for a Christmas party. Stupid theater started the movie 30 mins late.