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    Well, if you read their site (which I've posted at the bottom), their philosophy is a little more along the lines of "we don't want to hurt you, but we will if you make us." I suppose I was wrong in saying that they "openly" call for violence against people, (if by "openly" you mean "directly"), but their website seems to be a lot more concerned with condemning people who condemn violence than with condemning violence in itself. For instance, they criticize the hypocrisy of saying that violence is justifiable in the defense of humans, but not animals:

    "People typically have no problem with violence used in defense of humans. No one would claim that the Allied Forces were violent when they battled the Germans to dismantle the Nazi concentration camps. But people do have a problem with violence in defense of animals - who are the victims of a holocaust no less malignant and monstruous than that unleashed by the Third Reich. What does this imply? That the suffering of animals is less important than that of humans?"

    They criticize governments (so called "tyrannies") for having brought this violence upon themselves:

    "If animal rights activists begin to engage in violence, the jackboots will have no one to blame but themselves. John F. Kennedy said it quite eloquently: "When you make peaceful protest impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable.""

    And the fact that they're criticizing non-violent animal rights activists for self-dillusionment about violent acts against humans doesn't say anything positive about their humanitarian stance:

    "Who among us hasn't secretly wished the same experiments visited on the vivisectors who wantonly torture innocent animals and retard true medical progress for humans? Who among us hasn't privately fantasized about an anonymous vigilante animal rights cell that would magically rise up to mete out glacial justice to those who bludgeon newborn harp seals just so that some hirsute human pelt princess can be villous in Versace? Fess up! We've all gleefully indulged in such musings and reveries!"

    You can find all of these quotes on their site: http://www.animalliberationfront.com...ce-LGreene.htm

    So yes, even though the ALF states it would rather use alternatives to violence, it does certainly justify violence, and certainly to a point, hints at and glorifies violence against humans in the name of animal liberation.
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    thanks for the rep
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    I just have to say I love your signature!
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    Thank You. For the record, I wouldn't ever lie about my birth date.
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