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    Re: Who are we to question the gods?

    Let me try to clarify what I mean by "access".

    So you are referring to "ordered" thought. When I think of that, I think ordered by logic or according to the rules of logic for the sake of logic....
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    Re: Who are we to question the gods?

    First, I was not arguing that because I don't know, thus there is no proof.
    I was making the point that we obsere no evidence that knowledge and thing without substance like mathmatics, have any...
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    Re: ODN Changes

    Looking forward to it.
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    Re: The Cleansing of the South

    Relevant link on popular support...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-shows-most-americans-want-keep-racism-tainted-165839884.html
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    Re: The Cleansing of the South

    --devils advocate portion----



    http://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Explore/Monuments-and-Memorials/Confederate-Memorial

    This is as is ought to have been. These people died for slavery and died...
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    Re: The Cleansing of the South

    Yes, it is a free country, and I am indeed free to divorce the two and people are free to think what they want. Thank you for that astute observation. Unlike all those others you speak of I have...
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    Re: The Cleansing of the South

    over simplification, many were fighting simply to preserve their state from federal invasion, the political cause may have had to do with slavery, but the soldiers bleeding and dying were not the...
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    Re: The Cleansing of the South

    also from your link


    So, it is very clear that the monument in question is to the individuals and the bravery that they displayed. Basically, people today want to act in a way that Lincoln was...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    Is that an objective or subjective state?
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    Re: Who are we to question the gods?

    On naturalism that is a very serious problem. .. How does a spider know how to spin a web indeed. I have used that example exactly as evidence of God and why evolution can not explain such things. ...
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    Re: Who are we to question the gods?

    I agree, and I think this point bolsters my position.



    The number of chemical interactions is not really the point. The point is that when you talk about "ordered thought" you certainly don't...
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    Re: Who are we to question the gods?

    So.. are we back to thinking rabbits have thoughts? :)

    Anyway.. It is the "a rabbit who doesn't have those thoughts" is where the flaw is.
    There is in fact many other thoughts that are illogical...
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    Re: Who are we to question the gods?

    Given a logical fallacy, there doesn't need to be any particular wrong thought, because it doesn't logically follow anyway.
    The bunny could think "i want o be blue, so I will fly like a bird" as...
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    Re: Who are we to question the gods?

    Yea, as long as the ultimate reason you think X, is because of the rules that govern chemical reactions, then it is NOT the rules that govern logic. Thought x leads to thought y, not because it...
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    Re: Who are we to question the gods?

    Right. Good question.

    So, I agree with all that you quoted. The objection I am raising is a bit different.

    Namely, logic and thoughts deal with ideas. Such that idea X logically follows from...
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    Re: Who are we to question the gods?

    @ Jagg..
    I pretty much agree and appreciate all that you said.



    I certainly treat (or really, really try) those I am debating as though they have ACCESS to reason, and can in fact be...
  17. Mind Trapped by - Trump vs North Korea - fire and fury

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/trumps-threat-load-nonsense-north-koreas-military/story?id=49123733
    Link is to a ABC news report about current events. Specifically around Trumps "fire and fury"...
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    Re: Who are we to question the gods?

    @ Jagg, thanks for all the kind comments. Sorry to hear that you had to read my posts :)

    Thanks for the questions.



    My understanding of Presuppositionaslism has changed since that post. ...
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    Re: How is Religious Exemption Constitutional?

    Actually it is, but we have discussed this point enough in past posts.


    I think you may have misunderstood. I was not referring to religious exemptions, rather the broader instances of...
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    Re: Slavery and the bible as a moral guide

    All fine points.
    First, the "owning labor" is a term used by me, in response to future boys quoted source (see post *8).
    Also, as long as the person is "owned" the duration and conditions are not...
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    Re: Slavery and the bible as a moral guide

    The phrase "no **** Sherlock" comes to mind.
    Contradiction being the necessary aspect of concession, of course my concession contradicts an earlier position.

    I see the bible making a...
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    Re: How is Religious Exemption Constitutional?

    however, how the gov does deal with it is by adding exemptions. also remember that the test is specifically religious in nature.
    hence the middle ground in regards to drafting conscientious...
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    Re: How is Religious Exemption Constitutional?

    Sorry, don't really mean to jump back into this.. but
    The free exercise is about limiting the gov. So,it is exactly the point to "cover breaking a law" because it is the measure to be used in...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    You are confusing what a moral law would look like, and our ability to know it.


    The position I was forwarding, can be restated like this,
    If there is no objective moral law, then there exist...
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    Re: Slavery and the bible as a moral guide

    There is at least a kind kind of slavery that is spoken to here, namely people that are stolen away into slavery, which is the common understanding.
    That it COULD be understood a different way,...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    No, the might makes right refers to actuality.
    Or maybe better put, a principle of reaction.

    -Principle of Reaction-
    If there is no negative consequence, then there is objectively no...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    @Pga2 - Terms of the debate.

    Mican made a note (skimming a bit) that you were not addressing his argument within the terms of his argument. This is one of the major challenges, in this kind of...
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    Re: Mind trapped by - Trump vs Media

    I think this is a chicken and the egg sort of situation. Is it the media looking to take every conceivable opportunity to attack a political opponent, or is it the political opponent providing...
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    Re: Slavery and the bible as a moral guide

    Your #2 is factually incorrect

    1 Timothy 1:8-11


    Secondly, your OP does not make any distinction in the kinds of slavery that can exist. Even voluntary slavery. In so dong you ignore or...
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    Re: How is Religious Exemption Constitutional?

    No, your #1 says "laws that should be enforced for EVERYONE. That is a blanket statement with no room for exemptions what so ever.
    I have not offered a straw-man, rather a logical conclusion and...
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