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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Sorry, working way tooo fast that post I guess...

    I meant the Garden of Eden, not Heaven, my stupid, I usually try to proof read after I post to avoid such embarrassment ;)





    Even so,...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    To be clear, since I made two points and you made one response:

    are you agreeing that "if we use your standard for likelihood, the possibility of any proposition without evidence is as likely as...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Ok, then pretty much all current models/theories are wrong.



    You don't suppose this "dual nature" is really a single nature that we don't fully understand? As in, it may not really be a...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    1. Again: "if we use your standard for likelihood, the possibility of any proposition without evidence is as likely as not.", which is an untenable position.

    1a. Again, there is NO reason to...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Yet, my point is the same:
    "if we use your standard for likelihood, the possibility of any proposition without evidence is as likely as not."




    God could easily appear to be totally human if...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    You are taking that out of context. I was referring to you saying my argument was atheistic/or that I was an atheist.





    Agreed.
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Don't worry, I wasn't offended. I think you said this once before earlier in the thread and I just found it worthwhile to inquire why you came to this conclusion??

    My position in this thread has...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    1. You said "1. True (unless I had an out of body experience which might convince me of the soul)" so this comment rings a bit hallow...
    2. You didn't have to, your argument does that for you.
    4....
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Going fast here tonight, sorry if I screw up/mix a PM conversation with this thread of similar subject matter.

    Because the Earth/universe is here because A&E fell from Heaven as I recall. For a...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    1. Prior to this comment yes, but you brought up "out of body" experience to support you "might be aware that you had a soul", and that "experience" has no more evidence than a soul.
    2. Then you...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    1. More wishful thinking to support existing wishful thinking is weak support.
    2. Unicorns have not been proven to be logically impossible.
    3. I don't see any reason they could not chose to be seen...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    If a soul were to exist (in the commonly forwarded way):
    1. You would be a soul yet blissfully unaware unless someone mentioned the idea to you.
    2. We no of nothing else that lives eternally or...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    This would definitely require support. After all, I could say leprechauns exists because some people have "seen" them and the existence of unicorns supports the existence of leprechauns.



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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Again, if something can be seen with the human eye, we currently have the technology to "observe" it.




    Again, only a picture probably would not confirm conclusively that souls exist in and...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    The biology of the human eye is fairly well understood, and so to electromagnetics. This speculation is unfounded



    Then again, you would be wrong.
    UFO photo's (for instance) can be judged by...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    You want to show "we" are different than other "homo's" because "we" are sentient and I am not at all sure our foreign observers would see it that way.





    Well, you are the one that loves...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Death is pretty common throughout history after all, and who ever gets the first picture of a soul gets a Nobel Prize.





    None of these is necessary for a picture. Once an image (or other...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    If the human eye can see it, it can be detected/confirmed scientifically.




    ...not dead.
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Well, we are probably going to have that issue if your average response time is nearly a month ;)





    I think it was more like:
    if the dino's had not been wiped out, mammals may never have...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Souls are said to interact with our reality, if so, there would be measurable/detectable results. Even a soul, leaving a dead body as Eye has proposed for instance, would be detectable.



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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I agree there is no more evidence for one over the other but that doesn't necessarily make them = !

    When the positive side of the claim should have verifiable results but doesn't, this is evidence...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    An immaterial "something" that is conscious, lives eternally, presumably lives somewhere else till a human body is born and then takes it over till it dies,
    or
    the soul is born at the same time as...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Fair question. I don't have a particular expectation, it just seems very odd that some sort of evidence isn't available in the internet days. Or even reason to expect that a soul exists, but it just...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Perhaps, though if there is a soul (or if Christianity is true) I would expect some evidence to exist by now??
    That evidence doesn't exist, and the fact there is no compelling reason to think there...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Though I wouldn't say there is definitely no soul, the question is then the likelihood of the souls existence.
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I give you post #344:

    " Originally Posted by Belthazor
    3. Something SN (or anything for that matter) has to exist prior to a human mind observing it, so it must by definition be able to exist...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    1. You agreed the SN could exist absent human observation, and anything must exist before humans can observe the same, so obviously humans are not necessary for a SN occurrence (to realize it...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    First off, Eye provided that source.
    Second, let us look a bit farther in that definition:

    "The supernatural is defined as events or things that cannot be explained by nature or science and that...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    What "is and what is not supernatural" is reality.

    The mind can not affect what is/not supernatural (from here on referred to as SN), it can of course observe and decide whether something is/seems...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I said " If God put a rock on Earth that was made of something that does not otherwise exist in this universe, it would still be a supernatural rock even after people verified this to be true. "

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