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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    Neither. It comes from the fact that the fetus is not a legal person. That doesn't mean they are not human. A corporation is a legal person, its not a human being.



    You are both legal...
  2. Re: Objective Morality with Sigfreid and Belthazor

    Side Notes/discussion



    Honestly, I don't know why you think I have a "Knot in my panties" or even what you mean by that.

    Main Discussion
    I did answer directly in post #4 (my first post...
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    Re: Boys Can Have Periods Too!

    Always.



    That is usually my #1 goal in a discussion.



    A Trans-boy was born as a girl but decided to live as a boy. If they want to live as a boy, I'm happy to treat them as a boy, but...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    Yes, it's at least partly in the Roe v Wade decision. Unborn children are not legal persons under the eyes of the constitution.

    That doesn't mean the government can't have an interest in...
  5. Re: Objective Morality with Sigfreid and Belthazor

    Side Notes/discussion



    I think subjective is a more accurate description.

    Consider something like fear of foreigners. It is not arbitrary, it applies to people with some defined traits. It...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    Sounds good. Ya I think what we may need to do is kind of re-draw the lines of argument here. Summarize what you think are the relevant points on any given side.

    There are perhaps three areas at...
  7. Re: Objective Morality with Sigfreid and Belthazor

    We can come back to that later.



    No, that's not my intent, at least not directly. I just presume that if you think morality based on feelings is arbitrary, then you have some other standard for...
  8. Re: Objective Morality with Sigfreid and Belthazar

    Cool, Thanks Squatch. You can nuke the other one I made. I thought you'd deleted this one.
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    Who said it was needless? People always have needs.



    Body autonomy is the right to choose what to do with your body. The right to life is not the same thing.



    No, it contains my DNA, it...
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    Re: Boys Can Have Periods Too!

    A fish doesn't fit well into the net when they flip around, struggle and make a fuss. They fit just fine when they accept it. :)

    Which is to say, it's not confusing if you bother to try and...
  11. Objective Morality with Sigfreid and Belthazor

    Background

    Belthazar and I were discussing abortion. I gave a list of criteria by which many people make a moral evaluation about abortion. Belthazar found these evaluations to be arbitrary and...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    Yes. And we weigh that moral value against the mother's right to bodily autonomy and self-determination.



    You could say the sun is only up or not. But in truth, it is more complicated than...
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    Re: Boys Can Have Periods Too!

    It is useful to better understand how people think and feel.

    It is a battle because some people want to deny that these thoughts and feelings are "real".



    I disagree, its very useful...
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    Re: Boys Can Have Periods Too!

    No, not really.

    Here is the thing. Gender and Sex had more or less the same meaning for quite a while. In the 60s there was a liberalization of these ideas to say that lif wasn't so black and...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    The relevance is that the solution should fit the situation. And we have that to some degree.

    1. There is a wide difference in moral opinion, and so we largely allow individuals to make these...
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    Re: Who Is Still Active

    The fish thrashes in his slumber from time to time.
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    Re: Boys Can Have Periods Too!

    Let me try to break it down a bit if I can....

    Gender is a social construct.

    This means that what it means to be a man or woman in society is a social construct. AKA what it means to be a man...
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    Re: Boys Can Have Periods Too!

    I don't think so. What is your point?




    I don't understand this.


    Note: The quote you give is from Mican333, not Ibelsd... I will address what Ibelsd quoted in 186 first...
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    You have been brainwashed Evensaul. You've been given these arguments to make you sympathetic to racist ideologies. You have been sold the idea that whites are somehow in danger, that we are being...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    Are both deaths preventable? Yes, they are.
    Were both motivated (by your estimation) on trivial personal desires?: Yes

    Then this statement is accurate: "Yes. They are both examples of a...
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    Re: The Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

    Hardly. There is a great deal of direct information available if you take the time to read it. There is additional evidence being collected by the investigation but frankly, there is more than enough...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    Yes. They are both examples of a preventable death caused by someone's trivial desires. (you were saying in your argument that the mother's motivations are trivial)



    Probably none. How many...
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    Re: The Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

    Those are not members of congress. They have no power and no grounds to impeach the president.



    Much better, but it, by and large, was not supported by most Democrats and the democratic...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    Killing is objective, murder is a subjective judgment.



    Me personally, yes that sounds about right. I think the devil is in the details but that is the general guideline I'd follow.


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  25. Re: Amazon Fires - Manufactured Crisis by the Left

    A compromise statement I can accept. :) Especially since it's rare to bring an argument to such a neat and tidy end.
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    Re: The Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

    No, if that were the case they'd have started impeaching him in his second day in office.

    This is because the orange idiot has finally messed up sufficiently to warrant the attempt to remove him....
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: The age of Propaganda

    I might not be finished yet, keep em out a while longer. :)



    It's all about what people are interested in. What will incite interest? Sadly or not, journalistic mistakes don't really generate...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: The age of Propaganda

    Thanks, and you've put up a strong fight and made me work for it. I appreciate that. You don't post a lot but you're the most serious of the remaining debaters on ODN.



    Business news is part of...
  29. Re: Amazon Fires - Manufactured Crisis by the Left

    Indeed, your argument lacks much except to try and throw shade on the conviction of Environmentalists. It's like arguing that the NRA is not serious about the second amendment because they don't...
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    Re: Boys Can Have Periods Too!

    Let me see if I can simplify for you.

    It's too presumptive to call it a defect unless you are specific to a person's situation and it is a problem for them. In that instance, you could say it is a...
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