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    Re: Suicide Rate Increases 30% Since 1999

    Romeo and Juliet really can't be shown to be a motivator for suicide. And honestly, suicide pacts are pretty darn rare. Likewise, on TV and Movies, while I think there is a place for responsible...
  2. Re: Protected Classes: Expand, Reduce or Maintain?

    Well, I told you, the most just standard would be for the corrective laws to be in place for the same scope of time as the laws that originally discriminated against African Americans, 90 years,...
  3. Re: Republicans - masters of the made up nonsense investigation - Spygate

    No, a person could well be a spy even if there is no evidence to point to them being a spy. Indeed, a good spy makes it so that there is little to no evidence indicating they are a spy. What you put...
  4. Re: Protected Classes: Expand, Reduce or Maintain?

    But Jim Crow laws were wrong in origin. They were not meant to address an injustice, but to create one.

    When someone is stolen from, what is the most just compensation? To pay them back of...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    Indeed. Rare is the moral subjectivist that is also a theist.

    I will say that there is an argument that goes like this. While objective morality is possible in principle, it may be impossible in...
  6. Re: Protected Classes: Expand, Reduce or Maintain?

    How about we keep them for as long as the jim crow laws lasted? The started in the 1870s and lasted until the late 1960s. So 90 years of blacks being second class citizens. So this kind of...
  7. Re: Protected Classes: Expand, Reduce or Maintain?

    Considering there are a good number of claims and judgements, I would not say it is impossible to police. It is impossible to police it 100%, but that is true of nearly every crime in the books.
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    It's a question of what federal authority they are claiming such legislation under. From a legal standpoint, the feds can't simply make any law they like, it has to fall under the implicit or...
  9. Re: Protected Classes: Expand, Reduce or Maintain?

    The root of all this is the American egalitarian principle of equality under the law and by extension of that, equality within society.

    The legal principle behind these laws is that the...
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    Poll: Re: American School Shootings

    Yep, it is essentially a fashion. The fashionable way to show you are utterly alienated from mainstream society.

    People have always had that feeling, but how it is expressed has changed from...
  11. Re: Democrats - masters of the made up nonsense investigation - RussiaGate

    Evensaul

    I suppose it's a perception thing on my part. The way I consume the news is either to listen to NPR (which I have not done recently) or to use a news aggregator that offers me a bunch of...
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    Poll: Re: American School Shootings

    I'd say bullying is a symptom of alienation. Bullies pick on people who don't fit in and who won't fight back. It's how they target. So the alienation comes before the bullying. Bullies target...
  13. Re: Republicans - masters of the made up nonsense investigation - Spygate

    Well, the accusation is that he might be an agent working to entrap them.

    That is possible, so ya, they might be an agent. But as you say, that's about as far as it goes. No evidence particularly...
  14. Re: Democrats - masters of the made up nonsense investigation - RussiaGate

    Thanks, I hadn't seen that. I think that certainly supports your assertion. I suppose the lawsuit would outline what they feel is their evidence. I suspect it is pretty weak.



    I don't see a lot...
  15. Re: Democrats - masters of the made up nonsense investigation - RussiaGate

    Granted, sorry, I argue this with some other folks that go farther on this than you and claim that the FBI is actually just doing the Democrats dirty work on their behalf using the deep state etc......
  16. Re: Democrats - masters of the made up nonsense investigation - RussiaGate

    There is something of a strawman here, or a sort of Half-Strawman.

    Officially
    The investigation was never "Trump colluded with the Russians" It was whether members of the Trump campaign colluded...
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    Re: The Gender Pay Gap: convince me

    Still I think, given it is little more than a sometimes followed social custom, it is not really worthy of consideration in pay if you are trying to be just about such a thing.

    I think a number of...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    I think we have a definitional problem. "real" and "objective" are not the same thing. Nor are "unreal" and "subjective." Let's look at a computer as a model for a moment.

    A computer has a lot of...
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    Re: The Gender Pay Gap: convince me

    FYI: That's more of a literary fiction than a real-life practice. Disabled, injured, and elderly tend to go first, then its catch as catch can. No maritime law specifies ladies first, nor do most...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    Very helpful. I'll shut up on 1&2 since we are in agreement on those (though Indeed, I was mistaken and thought you were making some critique of them.)

    Philosophically, there are two categories of...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    Let me separate some wheat from some chaff. Lots of people experience morality and make moral judgments without really parsing it out to the nth degree. They grew up in a society, are taught its...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    Let's break it down... this is a decent start.
    A subjective moral claim looks like this.

    I deem that the act of X is an immoral act.
    I is the actor, and the act is judgment, the object being...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    I see this kind of formulation a lot. The problem is that you are smuggling in an objective definition of morality, then pointing out that subjective morality fails the objective test.

    You say...
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    Re: The Cliff: a thought experiment on abortion

    I suppose that all depends on how trivial they are. The less trivial, the less it would take.

    But I'm only using the word trivial because you used it. I don't think the reasons I offered were, in...
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    Re: The Cliff: a thought experiment on abortion

    They certainly can. Since you are using analogies, many ounces add up to a pound. Many inches add up to a mile. Many small reasons often do amount to a large motivation.
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    Re: How do you pay for Universal Basic Income?

    I'm just saying that if we had UBI, people would, on average, work a bit less. That would shrink the economy somewhat, which, coupled with monitary expansion, could have inflationary pressure. So...
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    Re: The Cliff: a thought experiment on abortion

    That's an interesting choice. I was not offering those answers metaphorically, you asked for more reasons and I gave them. Is your metaphor meant to encompass all of abortion, or just the one aspect:...
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    Re: The Cliff: a thought experiment on abortion

    1. Whether you are or are not a parent.
    2. How many people are in your family.
    3. What activities you will spend your time doing.
    4. The possibility of other children being born.
    5. Fear of the...
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    Re: The Cliff: a thought experiment on abortion

    Sad that my first response didn't get a reply.... but, I realize I was too influenced by the responses anyway and didn't actually address the question. So I'm doing a do-over...

    Its a goofy...
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    Re: The Gender Pay Gap: convince me

    Do I have to convince you?

    Because my study on the topic is that both sides have truth to them. Women are discriminated against both intentionally and unintentionally in the workplace. And, there...
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