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    Re: Democrats are More Divisive

    I agree that Democrats are against oppression (because what decent human being isn't?). I disagree that, as you forward, that "the Democrats have based their policy on the neo-Marxist argument of...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Right. Because I agree that one can provide something else besides evidence to shift the odds away from 50/50. For example, if both parties agree that one of the two options is absurd, then we can...
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    Re: Democrats are More Divisive

    And tha argument is unsupported. I disagree that that is their primary, or even a significant, motivation and therefore do not accept that just because you are saying it.



    But if one is not...
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    Re: Religious Exemption Laws

    I think you are beginning to get a little rude here. Let's keep it civil, please.




    No, I am not forwarding them as true. I put "true" in quotes as in "accepted for the purpose of this...
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    Re: Democrats are More Divisive

    I was under the impression that you were making the argument that the Democrats WERE more divisive because their agenda WOULD lead to something horrible. So I will consider that argument either...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    But that does not show that the odds of the soul existing, based on what's presented in this debate, is anything other than 50/50.

    All the "you are God" scenario shows is that we CAN use things...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    And the answer is "maybe" which means that it's possible that we may discover evidence that the soul does not exist in the future.

    Let's be clear. I am, assume, responding to an argument that...
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    Re: Democrats are More Divisive

    And I'm glad you admit that you don't have a clue of where the line would be drawn and therefore have no support that they won't stop until they've made the US like Cuba or whatever.

    In the...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    The only relevant "level" we need to address is the level of whether I have supported my argument that it's possible that we can discover evidence that the soul does not exist.

    With a grading...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    The typical description of the soul is that it is contained within the body and exits it upon death, which is why the NDE experience, if proven to be valid, would be evidence of the soul existing...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    The example of it being proven that the brain generates consciousness is a logically coherent example of how it’s possible to discover evidence against the soul’s existence.

    Since it is possible...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Okay. I will support premise 1 with a logic chain.

    1. PREMISE - Short of that which is proven to be impossible, everything must be considered possible.
    2. FACT - In this debate, it has not been...
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    Re: Religious Exemption Laws

    I am not ignorant of past occurrences not their justifications. I just don't agree with the justifications.

    And it's your argument I was addressing.

    Again, just because something was done in...
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    Re: Religious Exemption Laws

    You'll need to directly state your objection to my argument to challenge it. Referring to someone else' argument will not suffice.




    Then let me make it clear.

    1. I argue that ALL...
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    Re: Religious Exemption Laws

    I'd say it was "unjust" in general as in its not the government's business if an adult wants to drink alcohol.

    But to be clear, I am referring to the modern controversy of "religious exemption". ...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Then please point it out. I specifically asked that you point out how my argument does not satisfy. So let me repeat it and this time please tell me specifically how it falls short in your eyes.
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    Re: Religious Exemption Laws

    I disagree with that. I can't think of any attempts at religious exemption that were a valid appeal to unjust laws.

    What first comes to mind when I think of religious exemption is Kim Davis...
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    Re: Religious Exemption Laws

    I agree that breaking such a law would be morally justifiable.




    But again, if a law is an overreach, the correct solution is to not have that law at all. It's not to have the law but allow...
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    Re: Religious Exemption Laws

    But most of the proposed exceptions aren't about speech.

    The only one that seems to be about speech is the wedding cake one.

    The sought exemptions for covering birth control in company...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Direct evidence that the mind generates consciousness would be direct evidence that consciousness does not leave the body and therefore direct evidence that the soul does not exist.

    Now, from my...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Which I think is an artificially high bar.

    It's like I've provided support for my argument and am being asked to provide even better support.

    Let me lay it out in a couple of logic chains (the...
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    Religious Exemption Laws

    It's not too uncommon for groups to argue that they can legally discriminate against gays in situations where one typically cannot because they have the right to follow their own religious conscience...
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    No, It's a very reasonable assumption.

    I cannot think of any examples of whites advocating for racial separation from blacks which was not clearly rooted in racism nor can I think of a realistic...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    How is it not feasible that one day we will discover that consciousness is generated by the brain?

    Such a discovery is both possible and realistic (as in something that we can agree might actually...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    But I assume you would agree that it’s possible that one day we will discover that consciousness is generated by the brain and therefore dies with the brain.

    If that were to happen, we would have...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    I've locked the thread again pending moderately review
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I think we've strayed from the point of the argument.

    The issue is whether it can be proven that the soul does not exist if it does not exist. I have shown that it can be.

    I don't see the...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    If it were discovered that consciousness is generated by the physical brain then it would be a verified fact that when the brain dies, consciousness ends and therefore consciousness does not leave...
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    I will say that I agree that self-segratation is not inherently racist but when practiced by whites is generally racist.

    Whether self-segregation is racist depends entirely on the motivation for...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    The original statement was to the effect of "I (I being Belthazor) created the universe" so it was definitely referring to Bel being the singular being who created the universe (and therefore was...
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