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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I believe you are correct.



    Ah, agreement :)




    I am not sure what you mean here?
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    It seems to me that we have come to about the end of the discussion, unless there is a new point to be made.




    This point was settled several posts ago when I said something like:
    "not every...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I believe you were the first to bring those two terms into the debate which is why I put that phrase in quotes...




    Now this is new! I thought Christianity believed all had a soul?
    Please...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    If every human that ever lived had a soul that "departs" when the body dies, how could that possibly be "departing from what is usual or normal".




    This definition is ok with me for the most...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I'm not sure how this applies to the quote you are responding to?

    1. I said:
    "God if He exists would be supernatural. Do you agree?

    2. I said if the soul exists it would not be:
    "departing...
  6. Re: Amazon Fires - Manufactured Crisis by the Left

    "Good catch"????
    WTH?...


    I guess you two may not have noticed I said:
    "The destruction of rain forests including the amazon is happening at an alarming rate:"
    (emphasis mine!)


    That the...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    As you like, we shall just continue on as we have been then.

    ---------- Post added at 05:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:59 PM ----------



    I am not sure how this relates to the...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    "Maybe" allows for not being able to be empirically studied also, but the real point was settled a few posts ago when you agreed that not every idea with no evidence is as likely to be true as not.
    ...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Again if consciousness = a soul you may have a point.
    The sticky issue is:
    can the mind/consciousness/the soul be empirically studied.
    IOW is science actually capable of realizing your claim?

    I...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I'm trying. I mentioned a couple posts ago that my responses might not be as timely as in the past.

    ---------- Post added at 05:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:41 PM ----------



    God...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    This assumes consciousness = a soul.

    Just as a thought, MT once told me the brain was like a radio or tv, in that it received "signals" (thoughts) from the soul. Consciousness could be the human...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Assuming "consciousness = the soul" I would agree. This is not the issue Squatch and I are trying to point out though.




    Ok, you agree with Squatch here about me being god is equally likely as...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Any links for support?



    Forgive me, but that post was a month ago...but ok, that is better than just eye witness testimony.
    Anyway, I think the point was:
    "humans confirming a supernatural...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Why another thread? I have consistently maintained theistic belief is reasonable, it is only when a specific religion is there an issue. Still seems to apply to the Op and at the moment, Sharmak...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    @Mican, I did ask Squatch to adjudicate and will abide by his ruling for this Op, but will still ask him for clarity on some points, such as:

    @Squatch, I think the question was more like:

    is...
  16. Re: Amazon Fires - Manufactured Crisis by the Left

    I don't disagree with what you are saying, but its a lot like talking about pollution. We can show areas that are cleaning up and getting better and the opposite as well. Obviously it is difficult to...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    a. Since it sounds so common, it should be easy to study (once past ethical questions of course).
    b. When you say a "group of scientists observed a phenomena" I assume you mean they saw it with...
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    Re: We Need A Bloodbath

    Perhaps the DP is solely to deter the one that is capitally punished, and in those specific cases it seems 100% effective...

    (that does not mean I am advocating the DP here though! I am merely...
  19. Re: Amazon Fires - Manufactured Crisis by the Left

    Though I am not a fan of lobal warming/climate change and believe the most common argument for it is defeated as soon as they say something like:
    "climate needs to go back to what it was in the...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Answersingenesis.com for instance...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Yes, and you just keep saying "if evidence were to be found, then there would be evidence" is unsatisfying...
    What would/could the evidence be? How would it manifest itself in an observable way?...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I'm not sure this is on the same page as I was?

    At issue is "evidence of non existence" and if it is even possible.

    https://www.str.org/articles/what-science-can-t-prove#.XWheoXdFyUk
    "...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Ahh, the ole it's in the translation routine again.
    We have spoke of this before. When a tough point comes up, there is always a translation "situation".
    Which just adds strength to the idea that...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Great :)



    This is the broad version of the issue at hand. If I may paraphrase Mican's position:
    "when there is no evidence of existing or not existing, both are equal in likelihood"



    1....
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    You said:
    "Well, I'm not sure that is what the historical evidence says. It would seem to indicate the opposite, that humans have very rarely engaged in multiple-partner relationships or had...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Regarding the topic at hand, your standard pretty much removes all contenders that I am aware of until further explanations can be provided.




    Huh? IOW, you are saying some human version of QM...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    That not every wild ass idea that has no evidence and has not been proven to be impossible is as likely as not to be true as not, especially if it goes against current known facts.




    (your...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Since your "definition" of evidence is:
    "The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid."

    I don't see we have much left to discuss. Again,...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Sorry, working way tooo fast that post I guess...

    I meant the Garden of Eden, not Heaven, my stupid, I usually try to proof read after I post to avoid such embarrassment ;)





    Even so,...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    To be clear, since I made two points and you made one response:

    are you agreeing that "if we use your standard for likelihood, the possibility of any proposition without evidence is as likely as...
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