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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    My contention is that you have significantly undermined logic, and any valid appeal to it. I think I have supported that.
    If for one reason or another you lack the desire to engage in that...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Which isn't a problem, except for its self defeating nature. As long as your o.k. with completely falsified appeal to logic, then your all good.
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    The definition of two parts.

    From the quoted section..

    I took that as a definition. IE If it doesn't have aspect B.. as you define it.. and aspect A as you define it.. THEN it isn't real.
    ...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Right, there are two parts.
    So how does logic fulfill that definition? Do you observe logic and where? And how can you project it to where you don't observe?



    Yes, but none of the usages...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Thanks I'm not sure I see how the use of the word "abstract" adds something different than "mental construct".
    moving on though..
    So it's not exclusively a mental construct. (I thought I...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    edit.. first first... If it isn't a mental construct.. then how does it exist in the brain?
    first, you keep saying "abstract" like that is a real thing.
    Abstracts are not material things, so they...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I don't think those two answers are consistent.
    I mean, I get what your saying in the first, and I can agree with that.
    However, in the second, you seem to be using the same language... only you...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Question.. Then if suppose God did exist, and he is immaterial.
    Would it thus be impossible for him to have access to ideas? (I get that your saying non-physical equals non real, but there is a...
  9. Re: What is a Fair Share of taxes for the Rich?

    No your argument doesn't stand, because your moving the goal posts.
    You built an argument for why the wealthy should pay X tax, and part of that argument is that income inequality is an issue.
    The...
  10. Re: What is a Fair Share of taxes for the Rich?

    Because money is your property.


    Well, you argued that rich people don't need a bunch of money.. but the gov does need the money.
    So. it just sounds exactly like what I said.
    As you do...
  11. Re: What is a Fair Share of taxes for the Rich?

    As a fellow citizen, if you are going to start from a position that I have to justify to you, or anyone else why I CAN own something, then we are not going to be starting from a common ground. Your...
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    Mind Trapped by: War on the poor

    Introduction/over view
    There is a war on the poor going on in America right now. It isn't any kind of official mindset, or a goal that was set out before hand. This War is one that is through...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Found an old thread .. 8 years old.. apparently we have addressed some of this before. :)

    http://www.onlinedebate.net/forums/showthread.php/24402-Mind-Trapped-by-thoughts
  14. Re: What is a Fair Share of taxes for the Rich?

    Several major issues.
    First, Why should we seek to limit the income of anyone?
    Second, As we are discussing what is the fair share of taxes for the rich to pay, that is not relevant to what we DO...
  15. Re: What is a Fair Share of taxes for the Rich?

    What does taxation have to do with income inequality?
    I mean if we had zero taxes... i would assume we would still have income inequality.
    As jesus said, you will always have the poor with you.
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    Right, and my point was that the data we have about abortions is inherently going to not be specifically about that.
    But that data is not useless, especially when we see how the exceptions have been...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    Well then what do we do now? .. talk sports?

    Did you catch that boring SB? I was boycotting due to my Saints losing to the refs in the Division Championship round.
    Trying to start a movement,...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    I was under the impression that late term abortion was not legal in most states.
    That the passage of late term abortion bills that allow abortion up to birth are the prompting of the thread.
    So,...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    Not a problem, I'm a little slow so I appreciate it when you take it slow.

    Yes, the why is it immoral is important.
    So when you ask "is it a form of murder" it seems to beg the question as to...
  20. Re: What is a Fair Share of taxes for the Rich?

    I'm not clear as to what the "wrong reasons" can be to have a job where you work less and make more.
    and while a system needs both CEO's and ditch diggers, there is a sorting process that takes...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/10/19/abortion-mother-life-walsh/1644839/


    The assertion that the allowance is for the health of the mother, is not consistent with the...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    I think that it is generally an attempt to see the limiting principle.
    I mean there are those that argue that it is reasonable to kill the newly born.
    So for those that are pro abortion, but...
  23. Re: Racism & Sexual Scandal - A Statute of Limitations?

    Case in point?
    Senator Robert Byrd
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd



    I think we have become a less tolerant nation. Byrd would have been strung up today, Lynched if you will. Where...
  24. Re: What is a Fair Share of taxes for the Rich?

    So, I think I get where you are going with this, but there are a lot of ideas that it could be applied to.. so I want to teas it out a bit.

    So the idea of a person earning millions.

    -The CEO...
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    Re: Infanticide and Late Term Abortion

    For clarity, here you are referring to the abortion, where the unborn could survive outside of the womb. Even, as they say, when they are in the birth canal in the process of being born.

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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    ---- Repeated claims and supports ---

    This is a repeat of your original claim of this, and it is still not supported.
    The counter is that the geology/archeology shows life staying static, and...
  27. Re: What is a Fair Share of taxes for the Rich?

    To answer what is fair, I do have a starting principle.
    -It is immoral for the gov to take 50percent (or more) of an individuals earnings. -

    The reason it is immoral is because for the gov to...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Actually, common decent is not supported. There is nothing but a huge hole of speculation.
    You may be using evolution in some other sense.




    Well, that isn't exactly what I mean when I say...
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    Re: Where are the Russia Collusion Charges?

    I don't have to argue in the positive to question the legal standard and how it is applied.
    Specifically, how is it they are super interested in one instance, but not in an identical in relevant...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    My point, is that to support a position you need to offer facts, not other hypothesis and theories.
    My objection is that the facts don't support the idea of evolution (IE common decent)


    I don't...
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