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    Re: Is Secular Humanism the Answer?

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5778254744001/?playlist_id=5736530682001#sp=show-clips

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    Is Secular Humanism the Answer?

    I was watching Life, Liberty, and Levin tonight and his guest was David Berlinski, a secular humanist who has battled against atheist ideologies in his book, The Devil’s Delusion: Atheism and its...
  3. Thread: Is/Ought Problem

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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    I was applying meaning to goodness or VALUES in the is/ought problem on the one hand and also how the distinction is made between subjective beings. So I was applying the term to how you get a...
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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    That is the problem of not having a necessary mind. Where do you derive meaning from?

    And you never come up with a solution. I keep asking you to expose your explanations and you never do. That is...
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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    Then what makes his thoughts of any more value than any other thoughts?
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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    Although our Christian view can be subjective we believe there is an objective necessary source (if rightly interpreted) that can give absolute, objective meaning. The Ten Commandments are clear as...
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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    From God (to your last sentence).

    I see a few problems with your statement. The problem Hume distinguished as the is/ought problem (the heart of the discussion). Another is what Pilate identified...
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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    Are you associating all facts to empirical data? You are definitely doing that with God. Why is the universe here? Is there no reason (as you ponder the reason)? Why do you continually find reasons...
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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    Yes. It is a problem up to the point of objective moral truths being derived from objective Being, not quantitative facts.



    Agreed!



    You don't, if I understand the problem. We derive...
  10. Thread: Is/Ought Problem

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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    Without God, most definitely.

    Peter
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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    For a system of thought that supposedly originate from blind indifferent chance/time, the problem of morality is greatly enhanced. And just because you can describe something you don't like, does...
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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    An omniscient, eternal, unchanging Being would know all things. Not only this, but His nature (who He is) is good. Since He does not change He is the standard that everything is measured against in...
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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    I'm not understanding the difference between 'not perceiving' and 'projecting?' I'm not grasping the technical, in house, language. Can you expand on this?

    I think there is agreement with most...
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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    It depends where you start from in making sense of morality. I don't see how an atheist can make sense of it, except by borrowing from a position his worldview does not by necessity hold (trace it to...
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    Re: Is/Ought Problem

    That is correct because it goes right to the is/ought fallacy. Science is descriptive in nature, yet morals are prescriptive.

    1) Humans die if you electrocute them (Descriptive).
    2) Tim is...
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    Re: Secular Morality vs. Non-Secular Morality

    No, you did not. You offered a subjective opinion and statement that you claim has an objectivity to it. Whatever is thought of as "Beneficial" for your society may not be considered the same for...
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    Re: Secular Morality vs. Non-Secular Morality

    I mean that until/unless there is an absolute consensus regarding its personhood (for its humanity is determined) then, killing the unborn should not be done. Can you determine that it is not a...
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    Re: Secular Morality vs. Non-Secular Morality

    1) Since your point is that personhood is not universally known then you SHOULD give the unborn the benefit of the doubt.

    2) Human beings are personal beings.
    The unborn is a human being....
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    Re: Secular Morality vs. Non-Secular Morality

    You confuse when personhood begins. The VERY NATURE of human beings is a personal nature. Have you ever met a human being who is not a person? From the moment of conception forward, the unborn is in...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    What I did was respond to your post point by point. That is my habit. You made a statement, I responded, I replied - as simple as that.

    1) You were the one who prolonged the discussion of...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    The question becomes what is their evidence, and when (in regards to the timeline) does it stem from? Check it out. What do you have from Judaism from an early date? And what of Islam? The religion...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    This is the pot calling the kettle black. You do precisely what you claim I do with the unborn as if it hurts no one.

    dehumanize: to deprive of human qualities, personality, or spirit

    As I...
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    Re: Mind Trapped By: Omnibus ask anything.

    Good point, MT! Which only goes to enforce your OP regarding:



    It most certainly does, contrary to what Frank has said.

    I've only read up to Post # 27 but Frank's posts are loaded with...
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    Re: Secular Morality vs. Non-Secular Morality

    Missed yours too. Since the post is long I will respond in a few days. There is a lot to digest.

    Peter

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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    I'm expressing what I hold to be right and wrong and trying to justify why I believe the way I do. I'm not going out and killing others because of the belief they or I hold. I'm not demonizing the...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    Not at all. I'm just taking a wee break.
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    I'm not demonizing or dehumanizing love.

    You do the same thing you accuse me of doing. Some forms of 'love' you see as wrong.

    What is love, anyway. Give a definition.

    Here is the...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    Sharma, I documented the factual similarities of dehumanizing of Jews during the Hiltler regime with that of the Planned Parenthood and abortion advocates in Posts 57 and 70 on the following thread:...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    Again, you devalue its worth by shady definitions. "An embryo of a human being." What does that mean? What IS an embryo OF a human being? It is a separate, unique, individual human being. It means an...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    Okay, use that picture but don't obscure what it is from the moment of conception. It IS a human being. It is not some other kind of being. What is taking place is the killing/murder of a human...
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