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    Mican, I see no reason to engage with you further, until you can recognize that I supported my case.
    I am not going to skip you addressing post 52 directly.

    -previous post edited, and response...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    sure
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Yea, that is correct. Two lines of argument for that, some overlap.


    Yea, I suppose.
    Kinda like, just because you see a dead guy with a bullet hole in his head, doesn't mean he died from...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Right, so I addressed that here in post 52


    Basically, a psychological disorder is defined per argumentation, as mindsets that don't line up with reality. In the trans gender that is the mindset...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    You are welcome to your opinion.
    However, being a lesser source =/= not supported.

    Do you at least see that?
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    I don't really care if you accept it. However more than just my opinion has been offered in this thread, so your lack of acceptance is hardly an argument.


    I have argued that it isn't reasonable...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    I don't know if it is primary or not. Just that other concerns are mixed in with this discrimination number, which undercuts it's explanatory powers.


    I think that misses the point. The point is...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    my argument is found in post 52.
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    You don't think so what?


    So the world has male and female bathrooms just to screw with trans gender? akin to white and black bathrooms?
    Sure, that is my opinion but it's one based on reason. ...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    (Lost track of link for this one) There appears to be some issue with what is being called "discrimination" as well. For example, it is said that they are "denied medical service or suffered delayed...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Just a few corrections.
    1) It is not that they(trans) are 40% more likely than straits, it is that of all the trans nearly half attempt suicide.
    2) That number is not in regards to homosexuality...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    When that support is in the thread that is completely appropriate.


    ---
    Such as..
    Hey, i have a question What about this?
    o that, I was asked that question already, so you can find it in...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    That is true.
    I picked to support my claim.

    err.
    What is I supported my claim?
    .. or
    "who is I supported my claim".

    I'm not sure how to phrase it as a question Trebek.
  14. Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    "The basics of the linkwarz rule is that it should not be required to actually click on the link in order to see how it "supports" the point being made.
    Any further questions regarding the citation...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    When you claim that I did not offer support, my obligation is to show that I have, pointing you to the post where the support was offered is my evidence that I supported my claim.
    By any reasonable...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    You should have quoted the whole thing.
    Context matters.


    Emphasis mine.
    So your response makes little sense.


    Absolutely. That is why I responded to your challenge back in post 40ish...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    I think his point is that no one is neutral.
    Neutrality is a myth.
    Basically, we all have presupposition and biases, and those make us not neutral by definition.

    Here is a video on the myth of...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    And I responded, if you disagree then we are simply at an impasse.
    Having both supported our claims.


    Psychology today is not the one that called them a "hate group", and they did not say they...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Already responded to this point. surely you don't expect me to quote my last post?
    Further, that does not mean I have not supported my argument.


    Who says? The "southern poverty law center"?...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    You have only shown that they are accused of being a hate group. I have no clue why we should be compelled to accept the accusation.
    It is simply name calling in an attempt to discredit a source. ...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    This does not make it an invalid source. Because it remains a PROFESSIONAL opinion. In this case a DR wrote the link, and again it was itself sourced further.
    So my argument stands and is supported...
  22. Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    That is all fair points, but it is not the official standard referenced in the OP.
    The real sticking point, is calling a person who simply has thoughts and no actions a danger to society in any...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    False

    https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-dysphoria-in-children
    One of the main sources I used.


    Further, the linked and quoted source is itself sourced
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Done
    Based on (3)(7)(9) we should be using accuracy about external reality as the standard. Not simply stresses, and anxiety levels.


    First I showed it's flaw, but it requires you to read those...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    ***Moderator notice**
    -Cowboy-
    The claim that the right wing corporate media have been quiet on the Niger ambush has not been supported in the face of repeated challenges, and is thus retracted. ...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Is/ought fallacy.


    I was being charitable and offering my thought process.


    Circular reasoning.


    Challenge
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Actually, it is the opposite. If the conclusion was reached not on science but on political vote, then the evidence is currently that it was political.
    You would have to introduce some new evidence...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    When I was in my college psyc classes, the professor referenced it as a politically driven change. ..so yea, that is what I was taught.
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    That was not the claim you challenged.
    Here is the claim.
    MT = "By all accounts a suicide rate that high, is in fact as strong of an expression of "signification distress or disability" as is...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    What, support he claim that suicide is a sign of mental issues?
    I'm afraid if you are not willing to accept that obvious fact, then we have no ground to even have this discussion.
    I also will not...
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