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    Re: Are ODN "atheists" theophobiacs?

    Huh? How can it not!?!????

    Different God's expect different behavior, so DEFINATELY, if I believed in a particular God, I would behave differently (unless he really liked the way I am now, then I...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    But, Christianity has "borrowed" from other religions as well. For instance Christmas. It is not Jesus birthday, it was a Pagan holiday adopted by Christianity.

    Also, no offense to your claims...
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    Re: Are ODN "atheists" theophobiacs?

    I guess that would really depend on what God existed wouldn't it!!?????

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    At the moment no. Since I don't...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    I see no reason evidence can have "weight" but a claim can't have "weight", but I'm not a word arguer, I argue ideas, so I go with your definition here (unless you are going to be "that guy again ;)...
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    Re: Is the Trump presidency that bad?

    Trump is a nut...

    Having said that, I really, really, didn't want Hillary/Bill back in the Whitehouse.

    I just don't see how anyone could vote for either of them......that election was a...
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    Re: The End Times: A couple misconceptions

    Name a time since religion began, that we weren't in "the end times".....
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Perhaps instead of him trying to convince you God does not exist, he is trying to get you to convince him God does exist....
    (subconsciously at best I'm sure....)
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    Re: Are ODN "atheists" theophobiacs?

    Really? It just sounds like abject desperation to me. A drowning man will grasp at anything.....

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    Well,...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    While I still agree the weight of the evidence in question is equal, the weight of the CLAIMS is not.

    1. Maybe the issue here is using "extraordinary" for the evidence in question. If I told you I...
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    Re: Are ODN "atheists" theophobiacs?

    More likely that they hope they are wrong and "someone" really is listening. Since so many people believe it to be so, who knows, why not try it in a moment of despair? Again, nothing to lose, maybe...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Certainly. Should we steer off course too far, we should move this part of the discussion someplace else. Another thread or PM is fine At this point in the conversation, it still seems germane...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Totally agree :)

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    I think we pretty much agree here too :)

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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Though I think I get what you are saying and don't necessarily disagree, since the "evidence" offered by both claims is similar in weight.
    However:

    one claim is pretty mundane. One typing on a...
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    Re: Are ODN "atheists" theophobiacs?

    Not surprising, when faced with "crisis" people may try anything. Desperation is definitely a motivational force. After all, what have they got to lose...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Well in post #225 all you asked for was support the Dr's critique of grief specifically in DSM-V. But no worries:
    ...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    That is fairly clear I guess, I will take that as a yes :)
    Have a great night sir,
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    I see no reason not to question things....

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    Nor would I ever make such a ridiculous claim!

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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    1.God interacts with human's in similar ways in all three major religions. The three major religions are mutually exclusive, so they can not all be right.
    1a. It seems likely if you had been born...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    I'm curious. Here on ODN, God's abilities are commonly referred to as "God can do anything logically possible", but not the impossible. For instance, God can not make a married bachelor or a square...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Very true of course but I don't see the relevance on this particular conversation.

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    Could you expand on...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Why would it be that the universe MUST make sense to human's to be true?
    It's quite possible that there is no "purpose". Most people don't affect the world much. What purpose do they serve?
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Here we agree. "A God" may exist. however some particular "Gods" have been proven to not exist (Thor for instance).

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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Good day sir, I hope you enjoy your stay here at ODN :)


    You have an interesting view point, and generally, I agree...

    What are your feelings on agnostics?
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Well I'm glad you feel better, but I still see no significant difference in end result this case......

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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    And now you resort to insults rather than rebut my post which was:
    "Your claim:
    "a carcinogen can be the cause of a cancer"
    "being transgendered can be the cause of a mental disorder"

    What is...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Your claim:
    "a carcinogen can be the cause of a cancer"
    "being transgendered can be the cause of a mental disorder"

    What is to retract?

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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    ok, lets go with this definition

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    In post #211 you say
    " Dysphoria is basically feeling distress due to...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Which is?

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    Now this is the best analogy you have made on any subject you and I have discussed :)
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Well, we have been speaking as laymen ever since you tossed DSM out of the conversation

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    So in this...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Ok, let us see where this goes:

    "harmful grieving is a disorder".
    Good so far.
    Give it a name to classify it from "normal grieving".
    Still good.
    We shall call it (for our conversation) ZWAT. ...
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