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  1. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    Hmm, interesting use of the word opinion but this is not something I can win. Let's hope the FBI doesn't read this board, that's all I'm saying.
  2. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    How can it not be about SG if he himself said "I much rather have another Civil War before living under a Liberally dominated society." and "It wouldn't be much of a problem to kill pretty much every...
  3. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    You're the one that jumped into this! I feel entrapped and not a little perturbed that advocating violence against other members (ie liberals) seems to be fine.
  4. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    So would he count as a revolutionary?



    We are be taking about two senses of the word revolutionary here. Above you can see SG suggesting an actual civil war and you are using it in a more...
  5. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    No, I means specifically, since you are the arbiter as to who is a revolutionary, is SG, who has already admitted he would like to see liberals die, that he knows people that feel similarly and is...
  6. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    So would SG and his seditious friends be revolutionaries if they succeed?
  7. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    Read on to the second paragraph:

    McVeigh hoped to inspire a revolt against what he considered to be a tyrannical federal government.

    Sounds like a revolutionary to me.
  8. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    Was McVeigh a revolutionary?


    Yes, against the Crown.
  9. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    I agree that there's some recruitment bias but I am just arguing the specific point that there are more conservatives in the military than there are liberals.

    I am definitely not at all saying...
  10. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    Not exclusive claim to those qualities but Republicans tend to wear it on the sleeve more. They seem to be more rigid in their thinking, or more 'fundamentalist' or literal in how they interpret or...
  11. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    What the heck are you talking about? How is ensuring children get fed a good meal every day removing their rights to think how they wish? There are Republicans under all these entitlement programs...
  12. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    edit: just noticed you were from Boston!

    Most military are actually Republicans (source)- tradition, conservatism, patriotism, religion, discipline, order, dislike of the new, the different,...
  13. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    I love that we have people with all sorts of belief systems that get argued back and forth before we decide the best way to proceed. I mean, you're pro-gay marriage right so you too are helping move...
  14. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    The thing is that if you have to resort to murder, treason and sedition, then you have no real argument. You have to accept than having a minority view in a democratic republic has it's downfalls for...
  15. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    @Squatch: I've moved your comment from the other thread since it's more relevant here:


    Please provide where I have not explicitly answered the question in the original OP and the question in the...
  16. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    Then do you accept that I have not been trolling?



    Not at all. You have to show that using emotions to make decisions is necessarily fallacious.
  17. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    edit: c Once you have reviewed the below, please support or retract that I was trolling.
    edit2: Adding the specific questions from your OP and your modified OP that I was answering.
    edit3: Popping...
  18. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    As I will have to ignore your post :-) (orders from above)
  19. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    I don't think this is really about religious delusion on one side or the other more so than how one side treats their own faith with respect to the role in government; which is meant to be...
  20. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    I always do!



    Well, they are delusional or they're just using an analogy.


    I'd agree with you except that I've had many conversations with different people following different religions....
  21. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    I did, the day I realized that different people having epiphanies for different gods :-)



    Obama seems pretty level headed - I doubt that he thinks he's touched by God. Besides, as we witness...
  22. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    edit: c Once you have reviewed the below, please support or retract that I was trolling.
    edit2: Adding the specific questions from your OP and your modified OP that I was answering.


    Of course...
  23. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    Yes, a life time of brain washing compared to some journalistic / artistic license is very different. The former is describing the person, the latter the supporters of the person! That's the point.
  24. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    I'm OK with that. I never intended to discuss what you wanted anyway given that you kept tying it to a blackmail threat; I only mention this to point out that I achieved my goal, hopefully openly and...
  25. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    Legally speaking, it doesn't matter. No one is claiming that anything illegal has yet been done though the debt ceiling is getting dangerously close to being unconstitutional.


    I suppose you...
  26. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    No, I started off objecting to a minority part of government (not completely the house but also parts of the Senate), which is only one branch of government, who didn't have the popular vote, and...
  27. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    I don't know if it's going to be productive to quibble over the word 'running the place' - it's who is calling the shots that matter. In this case it seems to be the Koch funded Tea Party. That's all...
  28. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    It is coming out that this has been in planning for a couple of years, led by the Tea Party movement and funded by the Kochs: ...
  29. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    On Republican gerrymandering:
    Republicans have managed to both make their seats safer, and ensure there are more of them, despite the fact that they lost the overall popular congressional vote.
    ...
  30. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    It's entirely relevant. Even though they may be a small caucus, the gerrymandering of Republican seats have given rise to challengers in moderate-Republican districts. And to that point, the...
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