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  1. Re: Protected Classes: Expand, Reduce or Maintain?

    I think such laws inherently violate the freedoms to associate. While it is nice and good to not discriminate for stupid reasons it is ultimately the job of the church and not the state to effect...
  2. Re: Democrats - masters of the made up nonsense investigation - RussiaGate

    I think the premise is that the investigation has turned up no evidence.
    It is possible that the premise is wrong, however we can't assume they have evidence, because that assumes guilt, and the...
  3. Re: Democrats - masters of the made up nonsense investigation - RussiaGate

    - Argument from ignorance-

    Absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence, except in the case for the claim that no evidence exists. Then lack of evidence, is indeed evidence of absence, because...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    No that is the first premise of my argument... Will post a link when I get home.
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    I am arguing from the truth of the statement you listed. I am not objecting to it.
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    Re: The Gender Pay Gap: convince me

    I contend that it is a real life expectation.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2087585/Cruise-ship-Costa-Concordia-sinking-Whatever-happened-women-children-first.html



    So your...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    Here I forward it (and maybe not a precise use of the term.. until I can get a better one) is that if it ain't objective, it isn't real but imagined, and further is an imagination that is falsified...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    I think we are after the same thing here.
    I just want to point out, that we are both after what is happening Objectivly. Which is what your last sentence implies.


    Right, and given that we are...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    I'm sorry, no one says that. I mean your probably putting the claim through the translator, and I appreciate that for clarity.
    but people generally say "X is wrong", "You shouldn't have done X". ...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    Yes, and it is the one that the subjective moralist starts with.


    What is there to wrangle?


    I think that one pretty much sums them all up doesn't it? And here when you say "correct" I have...
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    Re: The Gender Pay Gap: convince me

    @ even.
    Suppose men are payed $5 an hour more than woman at any given job with all things being equal.

    Say for example they are both waiters on a cruise ship. The man makes $10 an hour and the...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    see post 303. The objective moral truth is quoted there. Be nice if you addressed it, instead of just skipping it.
    You are of course free to debate it, but I'm not particularly interested in if...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    First, the definition is not smuggled in. It is clearly stated and understood before hand. It is just being applied to the situation at hand and the argument being made.
    If there is one "smuggled"...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    Objective morality does exist, and here is why.

    Objective morality exist if objective moral truths exist.

    Is an objective moral truth, and involves an objective moral value apart from personal...
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    Re: Ask Zhavric Anything

    Which would hold water if women were allowed to try out. As they have been specifically bared based on gender alone. You are basically projecting onto the past something that never existed.
    Namely,...
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    Re: Ask Zhavric Anything

    @ I guess the words "womans sports" escaped your superior reading skills. Men's tennis and woman's tennis is the definition of genitalia categories. There are weight classed in sports that are...
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    Re: Ask Zhavric Anything

    Actually, because testosterone is produced in the reproductive organs, and it plays such a significant role in physical strength and build. Hence why steroids are illegal in sports and in this case...
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    Re: The Gender Pay Gap: convince me

    If there were certainly a gender pay gap, as long as men are last off the sinking boat, then I consider it a tax for that purpose.
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    Re: Ask Zhavric Anything

    Question

    How much are you looking forward to the eventual first Professional tennis match featuring a transgender? Personally I am pumped. I'm not sure if I am hoping for it to be two transgender...
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    Re: Gun Control and your stance

    The staff was asked to step in an adjudicate a challenge and request for support.


    While there were preceding lines of argumentation, the orginal claims, made by Sharmak in post 124, is that...
  21. Re: How do you pay for Universal Basic Income?

    The easiest way, is to just print the money. It's not like we arn't doing that already. Clearly we can print money, so we can pay for UBI.
    Combined with replacing current welfare, and removing any...
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    Re: The Cliff: a thought experiment on abortion

    O, if the op was directed at only you, then I guess I will sit back and read your answer.
    I thought it was like, our thoughts from the POV of the person on the cliff. Or about the persons on the...
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    Re: The Cliff: a thought experiment on abortion

    I think we have some crossed wires here, because in this thread I am aiming at a subjective POV not an objective one.
    I think there are still some objective facts involved. Like Mican objectively...
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    Re: The Cliff: a thought experiment on abortion

    Maybe I misunderstood subjective morality.
    Does your opinion actually invalidate another one?
    Or do we apply the logic chain I pointed out earlier?


    O.k. cool. I gave one.


    Yea sure.
    What...
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    Re: The Cliff: a thought experiment on abortion

    In what way does it change the context?
    As far as I can tell, I stuck very narrowly to the context of the OP. I didn't insert people that were not there.
    That is contextually relevant to the...
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    Re: The Cliff: a thought experiment on abortion

    Well, only given a subjective approach, and even then it still has some value IMO. As it exemplifies the inherent problem with the subjective approach, as mican evidences, people who ascribe to it,...
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    Re: The Cliff: a thought experiment on abortion

    In the OP there is only one moral agent. So this point doesn't invalidate my answer.
    I think it is a fair point to say that this limits the OP's usefulness to everyday application.. and I noted that...
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    Re: The Cliff: a thought experiment on abortion

    The point is that ANY reason is sufficient and valid given the fact of a single active moral agent. It is not a causative argument per say. I'm not arguing that because of a subjective POV thus they...
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    Re: Supernatural?

    I would say that if you want to examine the word supernatural, we should look at some of the things it is attributed to.
    So I think the OP does well to examine Ghosts as an example. However I don't...
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    Re: Ask Zhavric Anything

    You were quiet for a while, and then you weren't. Can you fill in the gaps as to what has happened to you in the time between? I assumed you achieved Nirvana and your consciousness was reabsorbed...
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