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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    Hi guys

    Sorry for the delay in posting, I spent all last week moving to a new city and tomorrow will be leaving the country for about a month. Thank you for your replies in this thread, I concede...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    So the Bible might communicate its cultural assumptions, but it will not necessarily lead to their acceptance? In this line of reasoning it is perfectly valid to reject the Bible's message based on...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    I'll start my replies off by saying that I might not get to every single point argued, but I will do my best. Please let me know if there is something I omitted that you feel needs to be dealt with,...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    My hypothetical posed the situation, but you were the one who said that the culture could not understand such things through the Bible alone:

    Apok: "The roles of the different persons of God are...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    I am not the one defining the communication as impossible. You said earlier, "The roles of the different persons of God are very important. I don't see how the relationships can be translated over to...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    If you were to believe it was literal, than you need to address why Adam was created as a male without a corresponding female. You would need to explain why Adam had male reproductive organs but no...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    The bold portion is exactly the issue - the message of the Bible is fundamentally tied to the culture that created it (or that it was first communicated to). As you and others have said in this...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    Fair enough. Translation problems such as these certainly give support to those religions that insist their holy books be read in their original language.


    Well, consider it a hypothetical....
  9. Thread: Fat is not good.

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    Re: Fat is not good.

    I completely agree, but I don't see that in the article you linked. I think that there is a difference between accepting who you are and making excuses for who you are. In the article, the author...
  10. Thread: Fat is not good.

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    Re: Fat is not good.

    I am very much a proponent of exercise and active lifestyles and very much against embracing obesity as a lifestyle choice to be praised.

    In the case of the model presented (and on a BMI...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    Thank you for the reply, it is exactly what I was curious about.


    If it is the case that masculine pronouns are a product of ancient Hebrew grammatical necessity, than shouldn't Biblical...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    Neil Armstrong was not an omnipotent diety recording His words for all of humanity. He was an American during the 20th century and so used the corresponding language.

    "Humankind" as a term is a...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    I'm not sure who you're addressing, or what point you are arguing.

    And I suppose your silence on my other points means you have no answer? Here they are again:

    "Why has He never appeared as...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    But for this reasoning to be applicable to the Bible, which presents the Word of God that is allegedly true for all humanity, than all humanity must follow a language law that uses the male gender as...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    The Bible clearly says that God created two genders, not that we evolved them from necessity.


    When did He physically appear as a male? (unless you are referring to Jesus?)

    Why has He never...
  16. Re: On replacing Christianity with Shinto in the west

    Haha, I think we're in the same boat - I see problems with capitalism, but at the same time as a member of the middle class it's not like I have a huge immediate interest in its destruction. I'm a...
  17. Re: On replacing Christianity with Shinto in the west

    No worries - I'm not convinced that you're wrong about Shinto either. But sometimes I feel like challenging religion is used as a scapegoat to avoid challenging capitalism (not to say that is what...
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    Re: The Gender of the Christian God

    Leno, thank you for your reply - I'm focusing on those who are defending the Bible as a religious documents, perhaps one of them will challenge your assertions.


    Plants procreate, yet have no...
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    The Gender of the Christian God

    In the Bible, God is referred to as Father, and with masculine pronouns. There is a Father and Son in the Trinity, but no Mother or Daughter. Adam is said to be made in His image. The impregnation of...
  20. Re: On replacing Christianity with Shinto in the west

    But what happens when the children learn that there is no such thing as literal Kami and so suddenly the only thing keeping them from destroying the environment is gone? Most adults don't behave any...
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    I am trying to figure out exactly what your goal of the "replacement" is - whether you believe that the belief in kami is a truth regarding the way in which the world works, or whether you are...
  22. Re: On replacing Christianity with Shinto in the west

    Do you believe that, or are you suggesting we "indoctrinate" children as a means to an end?
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    I think that some Eastern ways of thought are very valuable as a method of examining the assumptions made in Western thought. I also know that I have personally found some forms of Eastern thought to...
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    Poll: Re: Do you exercise your 2nd Amendment rights?

    For the ardent supporters of the Second Amendment: do you think there should be any restrictions on what kinds of guns private individuals are allowed to own?
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    Just because a local chapter filmed something in the 80s doesn't mean the national headquarters had access to it, or that it even exists any more. The NCAAP felt pressured to respond, and did so with...
  26. Re: Andrew Breitbart schools the NAACP on glass houses and stones.

    I wasn't aware they had the full video the entire time. Where did you hear this?


    Exchanging ideas is for Shooting the Breeze. The debate forums are for debating. In debating, opinions don't...
  27. Re: Andrew Breitbart schools the NAACP on glass houses and stones.

    Than it doesn't belong in a debate thread. I consider it retracted.
    People don't post here to read what you think, Talthas. They're here to debate with you.


    I never claimed he was...
  28. Re: Andrew Breitbart schools the NAACP on glass houses and stones.

    The NAACP describes that video as "a collection of some of the racist, violent or otherwise offensive signs." And while you may not consider them offensive, the NAACP surely does, and many people...
  29. Re: Andrew Breitbart schools the NAACP on glass houses and stones.

    Support or retract.


    Yeah, a guy who posted a dishonestly edited video on his blog would never lie about something like that.


    First the NAACP is racist because it had Sherrod speak, now it's...
  30. Re: Andrew Breitbart schools the NAACP on glass houses and stones.

    My satisfaction is more personal than intellectual, just like the satisfaction of seeing a rival team lose. I'm not saying that Fox news is the only one who gets stories wrong, I'm saying that the...
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