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    Re: Destruction of archaeological sites

    Yes.

    Generally, yes.

    Here you start swerving towards the real truth of the matter, but don't quite reach the finish line: Not all antiquities are worth preserving.

    The Chinese government...
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    Re: Destruction of archaeological sites

    Do all antiquities have value by virtue of age alone? I ask because you make a very generalized statement, without any attempt to explain why antiquities should be preserved.

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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    Actually, no, that was the result of five non-scientist justices of the Supreme Court.

    Do that. I'd like to see your list. In the mean time, here are some who believe that life begins at...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    I’m reminded of what liberals say about global warming- if you look hard you can find a few scientists who probably disagree for political reasons, but “the science is settled”, new life begins at...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    This is not responsive to the question. You have claimed that scientists have weighed in on the topic of personhood, saying that a fetus is not a person. Support or retract your claim.
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    Again, stay on thread topic if you want to be taken seriously. Or if there are other topics you want to discuss, then start a new debate topic in another thread.
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    Sharm, your posts have devolved into a scattershot of red herrings that are not worth my taking time to respond. Up your game, or be ignored. Your choice.
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    When and where have biologists taken a position on the issue of personhood? From what I've seen, personhood is a philosophical concept only.
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    The op takes issue with the way APA classifies pedophilia. So no, I'm not going to just agree to something that I think is wrong.

    Trying to drag my religious views into this thread is a Red...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    I addressed this issue in posts #24, #29, and #35. Read those and the linked material.

    A little more background: Homosexual activists and their liberal supporters have done a lot of work towards...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    Dude, you are the one claiming homosexual frequency is high and therefore homosexuality is normal, and that pedophilia frequency is low. Maybe you should do your own research if you're going to make...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    Sharm, are you really trying to use relative frequency to both legitimize homosexuality and delegitimize pedophilia? Really? Even homosexual activists don't put their percentage at above 8%, and it...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    I've posted supports. Nobody made you the judge of adequacy. I'm done with you here.
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    Mican, I've supported my position plenty. That you refuse to see the truth is neither surprising nor concerning.

    Sharm, I think just about everything you've said in this thread supports my...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    Well, it's not 100% certain, but the evidence is strong enough for me to believe the APA has folded to public opinion by creating a PD classification, treating it differently than homosexuality. I...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    First, pedophilia is NOT labeled a disorder. You need to stop making that claim, because it has been soundly rebutted. Pedophila is not a disorder. Pedophilic Disorder is a disorder. But...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    I'll assume for the moment, to forward the debate, that you are 100% accurate that the fetus is a parasite (though I can't find support for the idea that science actually views a fetus of any species...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    Mican, the APA's DSM-5 appears to disagree with you, in that is does not say that all pedophiles have a disorder, but rather only those who act on their sexual orientation.

    And as to whether the...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    I have to ask Frank, because you offer no details. You gutlessly offer nothing more than the slimmest of opinion, like a little frozen puddle with no depth.

    You have no valid explanation for why...
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    Re: Obama's Is A Failed Presidency

    How Trump is rolling back Obamaís legacy

    During President Trumpís first year in office, Congress and his administration plan to review, revoke and overwrite key parts of his predecessorís domestic...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    The oxygen and IV systems serve exactly the same function as an umbilical cord, so your opinion appears to rest on a view that the mother has rights where the machines do not. Is that correct?
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    What makes you think the APA is free from political and public pressure, or that the APA board of directors and voting members do not let their own social values effect their vote on APA positions?
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    If you were hospitalized, on oxygen and intravenous feeding, but otherwise mentally and physically functional, would you be a non-person? How would that condition be different than an unborn child...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    The problem, Frank, is that you posted a thread titled "Another abortion debate opportunity" on a debate website and then offered only an unsupported opinion on the subject, have been unwilling or...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    You think that religion is required for someone to be pro-life? All atheists are prochoice? Where do you get that idea?

    Or is it your own inability to have a secular discussion, your own hatred...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    Okay, but ... If the labeling of any condition as a mental disorder rests on public opinion, then homosexuality really was a mental disorder (and still is in much of the American heartland). Are you...
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    Sticky: Re: Thou Shalt not: Murder or Kill?

    Not a problem - you made me think about it, and that is a plus.
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    I think what you've presented is a description of the disorder, not a definition of pedophilia. If I'm reading correctly, the upshot is that not all pedophiles have a disorder. So the pedophile...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    I don't believe this is correct. Please support.

    Even if true, which I'd need you to support with evidence, that isn't relevant to whether it is a mental disorder.

    Are you claiming there is...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    No, sorry, I didn't mean that homosexuality is a variant of pedophilia. Not at all. I meant that homosexuality is an acceptable variant of sexual orientation.
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