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Some news on this today: https://www.axios.com/minimum-wage-job-loss-predictions-not-true-dcda5eac-996d-4539-a07e-12933eef4bca.html



Not much more to be added here other than I have to agree...

Are you sure that’s what is happening? Seems to me that McDonalds is showing corporate behavior can change, small businesses can still be protected and that your evidence is merely one of many...

As further proof that MW is not a matter for economics but a matter of politics, political will and societal shifts , McDonald’s is halting their lobbying against MW hikes:



Note also that...

Being around a long time just means that organized religions have co-opted the idea; just as Christianity co-opted other religions.

Souls, per my op, are made up.


You’re overly fixated on...

I’ve been thinking a lot about your last post, and my own responses and given we’ve been at this for a while, with no real change in either side (other than I’ve found some additional successes and...

Well, I suppose it depends on the credibility of experts. In this case, for some reason, and almost universally, this is being ignored. And probably for good reason too.


I take it to mean...

Sure, it’s called making stuff up! That I agree with wholeheartedly!


How is this controversial? The problem has been recognized and being dealt with.


Broken link.


I don’t think...

So how is any of that explaining reality?


Meh, that's a weak argument - it's not controversial that not all medicines work for everyone. We just have to trust that our testing protocols are good...

It's not my personal choice - I am just adopting ideas that other people, who have thought about this more than me, have decided is a good idea. Versus academics and corporations who appear to gain...

It isn’t spam because it has already been stated and not retracted it. It is absolutely in play.

It appears to form the basis of your NEW points that link back to this idea. I just don’t want to...

Nevertheless, is it withdrawn or not?

So you no longer believe that all religions equate consciousness with the soul?

Umm no, because you were arguing the same points after this was pointed out to you multiple times.

And if there are still arguments in play then state them.



No. This is procedural - I...

Hold your horses. You don’t get to spend a week badly defending your “truism” from multiple fronts and then throw the towel in and claim any kind of win. I need you to concede that this is a do-over...

We're not currently debating though - we're meta-discussing what happened for us to get to the point where you have to withdraw your arguments and get a do-over.




It absolutely is a do-over:...

And we aren’t debating. We discussing how you want to play the next move.



I’m granting you a do-over. Neither of our arguments are in play. Correct?

OK: the argument has been all over the place, constantly reworking and being refined as holes are discovered and retracted just as often.




We’re no longer debating though since you’d...

Um - that was a response to your question: you're asking me to do your work again.



Um - my OP still stands. It's up to you to decide how you want to rebut it! I'm not going to act shocked if...

You'll have to tie up the timeline and respond as you see fit. I can't help you if you're not properly keeping track of the debate.

Agreed. We should not use the words “you”, “your”, or “I”.

I see that towards the end you can’t help yourself but attack me for using your own sources against you. Please stop.


There is no...

Well, if that were true, you wouldn’t to keep clarifying yourself nearly every other post!


You started off with NDE and then changed again just now. It doesn’t matter what you “meant”, it’s...

1. I have it right. NDE is "near death experience" - it is a superset of OBE "out of the body experience"; the former could just be seeing light at the end of the tunnel, the latter is an experience...

It’s as arbitrary as any other moral system. It’s not objectively true that it is moral for companies to not pay their employees a full living wage whilst getting other tax benefits.


This is...

That’s not what I said. I said he changed from NDE, a general experience, to OBE, a more specific one. And then when I offered my definition, he changed the topic of discussion to “consciousness...

I have no idea what the distinction is - you realize OBE is an acronym right? You can’t have an experience experience! The whole thing *is* an experience!

I believe this might be a record as to...

OK. I won’t repeat it but I also don’t retract it. That said, you *did* change from NDE to OBE and then you only changed to your new definition since the one I gave wasn’t good enough.



I...

Well, I'm not an economist so you'll have to translate for me, but I agree with your definition. Yes, it's arbitrary and yes, it is being imposed on them. I don't see a problem with that.


By...

Yet when I did provide a definition he moved goal posts and changed things. It isn’t up to me to choose how he defines his own words and I can’t be doing it for him because he’ll just dodge and shift...

Unanswered questions:

Do animals and plants have souls?
Are you a Flat Earther? What do you mean lower down that “it’s possible”?


Yet when Susan Blackmore had the experience, she went...

You only showed one side which doesn’t demonstrate a fair look at the issues and why things are the way they are.


No, that’s my point: you just complained and called that one sided set of...