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    Re: Terms in the abortion debate

    I see you are missing my point entirely. I'm not saying you can't apply the term nor am I saying that the term is inaccurate. I'm saying that just because you can accurately apply a word to...
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    Re: Any prevalent American social issue

    I don''t deny the difference between a fertilized egg and an unfertilized egg but regardless, an unfertilized egg is both human and alive and therefore technically is "human life". So again, if you...
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    Re: Any prevalent American social issue

    No. There is obviously a difference. I just don't see the relevance of the differences regarding your argument. I mean if one is to argue that the fetus is entitled to the legal right to life,...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    PGA,

    You are continuously begging the question by operating on the unsupported premise that morality IS objective. Since that has not been supported, it is not an accepted premise and should not...
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    Re: Any prevalent American social issue

    I didn't say there was a specific difference. I'm saying that a woman does not consent to pregnancy whenever she chooses to have sex. So any argument that says otherwise is wrong.



    And again,...
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    Re: Any prevalent American social issue

    SUPPORT OR RETRACT this assertion. The link you provided is neither about consent nor does the word "consent" even appear within the link (as far as I can tell).

    And legally, it's obvious that...
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    Re: Slavery and the bible as a moral guide

    I ask in advance that any who respond to this post do so in a civil manner. If you're going to spend a portion of your post insulting me or my argument, please don't respond. Please keep all...
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    Re: Any prevalent American social issue

    I didn't say that he didn't "consent" to the possibility to falling off the roof. I said he didn't consent to falling off the roof.

    Consent means that one agrees to do something. If one does not...
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    Re: Any prevalent American social issue

    "Consent" means that one specifically chooses to engage in the activity. The way the word is most commonly used today is in regards to sexual activity. If a girl says to a guy "I agree to have sex...
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    Re: Terms in the abortion debate

    I promise you that I am not being intellectually dishonest and I'd appreciate if you refrain from making person comments about me.



    But then I'm not here to teach your but to debate you which...
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    Re: Terms in the abortion debate

    And IMHO asking that question is bad form. As I've said before, questions are not arguments. I don't even have any obligation to answer such questions and I certainly have no obligation to give you...
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    Re: Terms in the abortion debate

    This appears to be nothing but semantics. If you want to apply the term "human being" to the unborn, that's fine. But that in and of itself does not mean that the unborn should have the legal right...
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    Re: Terms in the abortion debate

    That's pretty vague. I don't see an actual argument there.




    So a fetus is not an unborn?
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    Re: Terms in the abortion debate

    No. They stay an unfertilized egg until they die or until they become fertilized. Then they become a fetus. And the fetus stays a fetus until it dies or is born.




    A fetus.
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    Re: Terms in the abortion debate

    What about an unfertilized eggs?




    When I hear a world that applies exclusively to the unborn, I think of an unborn.



    But to use terms that can apply to humans that are not unborn...
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    Re: Terms in the abortion debate

    You switched from "human" with fetus, toddler, and geriatric to "A human" when referring to an egg. In other words you used an adjective (human) for the first three and a noun (a human) for the egg....
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    Re: Terms in the abortion debate

    It depends on what you mean by "a human". It really does seem that the abortion debate comes down to equivocation - using words in a vague manner in order to make one's point.

    Why not use a word...
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    Re: Terms in the abortion debate

    If you are going to have a debate around these questions, then it's appropriate for you to make the initial statement. So I will debate the issue, but you have to start the debate with affirmative...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    That is not necessarily true. How correct my moral viewpoint is entirely dependent on what system one uses to determine the correctness of a moral viewpoint.

    1. If we use my moral viewpoint, then...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    I don't care if my argument is ill-defined because whether or not it is ill-defined apparently has no relevance to whether it is correct or not. We are debating whether the argument in the OP is...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    Since you are saying it's ill-defined, you OBVIOUSLY personally find it ill-defined. That's just simple logic. The question is whether you are right in it being ill-defined. And my answer to that...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    Then feel free to not respond to the portion of it that you find too ill-defined to generate a response to.



    Some do and some don't. Bridges objectively exist and likewise have a source.
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    Re: Slavery and the bible as a moral guide

    But he is not wrong. There IS a definition of "mandate" that very much aligns with "require". So it's not right/wrong but which one a person INTENDS to use. You want to use one definition and he...
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    Re: Slavery and the bible as a moral guide

    I disagree. I've ALWAYS thought the primary definition of "mandate" means something along the lines of "require" and that's what the word means to me. I can intellectually acknowledge someone using...
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    Re: Slavery and the bible as a moral guide

    To clarify, there are multiple definitions of "mandate" and one of the definitions does directly refer to commanding action:

    verb (used with object), mandated, mandating.
    10.
    to authorize or...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    And speaking with God would create that belief as one would likely be convinced that God exists once he/she has talked with God.



    But the 100% is an artificial bar. No one is 100% certain of...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    No one would misinterpret another's argument in such a fashion unless it was done to try and win an argument (I guess if you're going to accuse me of making disingenous arguments, I'll do the same...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    Any second-hand knowledge can be questioned. We all went through 12+years of learning things primarily through second hand knowledge (teachers telling us things). And of course for those things...
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    But I didn't make the same comment. "Your opinion is noted" is essentially blowing off an argument and if that's ALL one is saying, then it doesn't forward the debate. But that's not all I said.
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    Re: Objective morality vs. subjective morality

    As far as I can tell, the debate over whether the argument is ill-defined is a waste of time as in it does not forward the debate.

    First off, whether something is ill-defined is subjective. ...
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