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    Re: Another 'hate' crime

    Always with the Nazis.


    I didn't imply you did. I stated that what you said had kinship with the argument.


    Your premise was that this wasn't a hate crime but your larger error was when you...
  2. Re: Duggars and the dangers of mixing religion and politics

    I don't see the move to 'religious freedom' as softening on the anti-gay front on the Republican side - it's doubling down on religion from my perspective. The Gay has always been a proxy fight for...
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    Re: Another 'hate' crime

    Well there are certainly patterns of thought that cluster together - your hate crime denial finds kinship with those ideas that don't believe racism exists.


    I know you didn't say it but I...
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    Re: Another 'hate' crime

    Right and there are a class of people that consistently deny the problems of racism exist or deserve the attention they are getting. It's an important issue to address and challenge. How is pointing...
  5. Re: Duggars and the dangers of mixing religion and politics

    So how would my response then apply to the situation here? I still can't make the connections you're seeing.


    Well, given that there are fewer young people identifying as 'religious', I think...
  6. Re: Duggars and the dangers of mixing religion and politics

    That idea doesn't even make sense - note the OP and what this topic is about: the right-wing politicians who are leaking their specific religious viewpoints into politics. The danger is to them.

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  7. Re: Duggars and the dangers of mixing religion and politics

    The danger is really on the right-wing politicians that are now dismissing their deity's representative on Earth. In almost every turn, the Catholic politicians (Santorum, Bush & Cruz) are now...
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    Re: Another 'hate' crime

    I'm not quoting you! I'm saying this is an attitude of some people that ALSO don't believe in hate crimes or racism.


    Sure - robbers are in full control over their lives; people killed in a bank...
  9. Re: Duggars and the dangers of mixing religion and politics

    And to prove my point about the dangers of mixing politics and religion, the Pope's weighing in on the harms of right-wing Conservative Christians has been expanded to a leaked Encyclical on climate...
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    Re: Another 'hate' crime

    It's funny when a non-minority person dismisses the idea of hate crime ("racism can't exist any longer since we have a black President"). However, there is a legal definition of it:





    In the...
  11. Re: Same-Sex Marriage Ten Years On: Lessons from Canada

    Another beautiful example, in Australia this time, of how bigots' public displays of fake piety is being called out:



    Of course this caused instant rage with among which was a public to them...
  12. Re: Duggars and the dangers of mixing religion and politics

    Update to this never-ending gift of a story:

    Huckabee's relationships to child-molesters apparently has no end: More Molesters? Co-Author Of Mike Huckabee Books Accused Of Child Molestation ...
  13. Duggars and the dangers of mixing religion and politics

    What is there to answer? You seem to be shifting goalposts constantly with your questioning so there's no trolling going on. It just seems that you're wasting time asking about nothing.

    If you...
  14. Re: Duggars and the dangers of mixing religion and politics

    Apology accepted. I was just observing you getting twisted up in your own straw man arguments. It's amazing how much you end up agreeing once you've realized you're arguing against yourself.
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    Re: Support the travelling pant suit

    It's your conspiracy theory not mine!
  16. Re: Duggars and the dangers of mixing religion and politics

    Firstly, I was never suspended. So stop your weird wishful thinking.

    Secondly, it is clear from my own words that you quoted that I don't mean all Christians. Yet again, you are arguing with...
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    Re: Support the travelling pant suit

    You do realize that Clinton doesn't have to battle the ridiculous number of Republican candidates, right? They get to have their own special clown show and Clinton will be fighting against the...
  18. Same-Sex Marriage Ten Years On: Lessons from Canada

    The article in the OP is a little old so here is some recent news from the cult of self pity that infects some of the less tolerant christians :

    From...
  19. Re: Duggars and the dangers of mixing religion and politics

    I'm not talking about Christians - the Duggar's brand of Christianity is hardly representative.




    Are you sure you have the timeline correct? You tend to get these things wrong. Please prove...
  20. Re: Same-Sex Marriage Ten Years On: Lessons from Canada

    I don't see how any of this is bad. The clergy here still have the right to preach to their congregation - they have never had the right to force their views upon people outside of their religion....
  21. Re: Duggars and the dangers of mixing religion and politics

    The Christian beliefs these people have suppress sexual desire and promote ignorance of sex and this is well documented from the outside (my source - The Duggars: How Fundamentalism's Teachings on...
  22. Re: List of Suggested Key Terms on the Great Debate

    Yet you still want to lump it under the term "God"?



    Well, the theists don't seem to be much in agreement so far. Like the story of the stone soup, everyone wants to add their favorite...
  23. Re: Another week another sexually hypocritical Republican scandal

    I'm not complaining but the onus on you to properly quote people if you have an argument. If you just link warez then that is a legitimate issue.

    Secondly, this has been a disaster since you...
  24. Another week another sexually hypocritical Republican scandal

    Again, a link is not support. Especially since you appear to be conflating and confusing things.



    Again, a link is not support. I have no idea which portion of post 5 you are explicitly...
  25. Re: Another week another sexually hypocritical Republican scandal

    Of course this is true! Over half the country do not support bigotry against gays so not all Christians are imposing their religion onto others even though privately they may still believe it to be a...
  26. Re: Another week another sexually hypocritical Republican scandal

    Claims of prior support is not support. When challenged to support or retract, one is required to provide support in the reply. And just providing a link is linkwarz, not support

    I'm not chasing...
  27. Re: Another week another sexually hypocritical Republican scandal

    Firstly you were conflating them as part of what you THOUGHT my argument was.


    Wot?


    So what was all that nonsense about me that saying hypocrisy is dangerous for?
  28. Re: Another week another sexually hypocritical Republican scandal

    When you are politically active or an actual politician voting for certain policies that also align with your religious beliefs then I think the connection is quite clear.

    Being against The Gay...
  29. Re: Another week another sexually hypocritical Republican scandal

    I've been reading quite a bit about these evangelical groups from some of the works that influence them as well as ex-members and analyses regarding their sexual practices. I'm not entirely ignorant...
  30. Re: Another week another sexually hypocritical Republican scandal

    What I mean is that you're placing them together and then accusing me of it.


    Understood - I meant that you were putting them together in an argument I wasn't trying to make.


    The...
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