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  1. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    Justify it to who though? Not to yourself for pretty much everyone who debates a point thinks that their position is justified and therefore an argument would be considered supported by just being...
  2. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    AWESOME JOB COMPRESSING THE DEBATE! :)




    And I'm saying that you have not supported that that is there current position. You have not shown that Pelosi meant that she would never, in future...
  3. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    MT,

    Damn, my post is a lot longer than I would have liked and don't look forward to responding to your response if you address every point. If you can find a way to merge some of it together in...
  4. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    And you have not provided a direct quote with them actually saying the words "never" or "ever" nor made a supported argument that they intend to never fund the wall, especially in the face of my...
  5. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    I think it supports it very well. There is no "King of the Democrats" who unilaterally makes negotiation decisions for all Democrats. They all vote on a budget and therefore they all get a say in...
  6. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    Nope.

    They are still open to negotiating for wall money.

    This article is from earlier this month.


    "Rep. Jackie Speier, D-Calif., and Debbie Dingell, D-Mich., have both said they would be...
  7. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    I very much doubt that you have heard any Democrat say no money at all ever but if you have, please present the statement. Direct quote with link, please.

    And the Democrats have already attempted...
  8. Re: Mind Trapped By: Gov shut down, bad in what way?

    It's not an issue of money. It's an issue whether they will acquiesce to the President holding the government hostage in order to force them to give him his wall money. They absolutely should not do...
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