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    Re: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

    Ummm....



    While I agree that is a very interesting question, it gets off the topic of this thread. Let's say there was a large enough groundswell of people doing that editing for religious or...
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    Re: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

    But you allow for the possibility. There doesn't seem to be a limiting principle in your philosophy that would prevent it, right? We would just have to be lucky enough for reality to not have a good...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Only in the same way that showing I could find a married bachelor is a coherent example of how it is possible to discover evidence of contradictions. It is a sufficient rebuttal to someone simply...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I think you are stretching this chain about as far as it will go and I'm not sure that it gets you really where you want to be. That logic chain demonstrates that it hasn't been shown to be...
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    Re: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

    So then a forced dictate by the state might be ok?





    No, of course not. Setting aside that we have smaller brains than other animals so pure size isn't the issue, why is intelligence or...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I think the heart of the objection here is that premise 1 is unsupported and is not a brute fact. I don't know if such a thing is possible or not. That premise would need to be defended.

    I think...
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    Re: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

    Why not? If it was a decision reached through democratic consensus, for example?



    "Inferior" is a subjective term, not an empirical one. If we handle them culturally, ie if we allow us to...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    I think so, yeah.
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    This gets into a much larger discussion, but one that is fun to have. A lot of full time physicists (Sean Carroll not included here) seem to dismiss philosophy as irrelevant to their field, but QM...
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    Re: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

    I'm not sure they couldn't. Have you read any of Margret Sanger's work? That was exactly what she was trying to do, she wanted to reduce inequality and class distinction by removing those who...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    So far, all I've seen is that you've appealed to the idea of science discovering it rather than detailing why it is the case. Why do you think this is a true statement:"Such a discovery is both...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    That is what you need to support is feasible in order for the premise you are relying on to be feasible. It doesn't strike me as a brute fact that doesn't require some level of support.
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    I don't think that you have though. It would be akin to saying: "It's possible that if I created a round circle I would be the greatest geometrist ever." That statement doesn't show it is possible...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Agreed, that was point 5 of my original post. The question at stake (point 6) is: "Is it possible to discover that conciousness is generated by the physical brain?"

    Or, more broadly, the premise...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Given the two limiting caveats offered and not a more general principle absent any and all evidence (we clearly have some given we have premises about the discussion) and that this is about warrant,...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    I've unlocked this thread for now. Questions or objections to the ruling above should be asked in Ask the Staff. Additional debate or furthering of this line of argument is fine, as long as it is...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    If you are both operating under the Christian definition for "God on Earth" then perhaps, though we are then inserting a whole bunch of other "evidence" into the discussion. Sufficed to say, if the...
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    Re: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

    I think it depends on how you define "forced" I'm sure the person being sterilized would call it "forced," but then, historically the solution has been to appeal to the "will of the people" or the...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    Finding on support of a claim.

    Cowboy's argument that the persecution against the gay community warrants reperations was challenged. In defense Cowboy offered this comment:


    They are/were...
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    Re: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

    I would be surprised if you didn't to be honest. It is at least intellectually consistent to argue that (based on the same kind of intellectual assumptions that lead to Fabian socialism) eugenics is...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    Ok, here is my initial take on where you two stand.

    Point 1: I think that it is somewhat uncontroversial to point out that in absence of evidence for or against a claim, that the claim is...
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    Not to get involved here, but I thought I would point out that Warren only started being called Pocahontas when Trump started saying that term. And he only seems to have said it, imo, because he...
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    Faith: Re: The soul does not exist

    First, let me make sure I have both arguments correctly summarized. I will write what I think is a brief summary of the propositions, then if both parties could give me a thumbs up I'll offer an...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    That is a much stronger statement that I'm not sure is correct. I think it would depend on what you mean by "all current theories." Sufficed to say that this specific mechanism cannot, by itself,...
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    That's a great question. The answer lies in the fact that demand and supply don't necessarily happen at the same time. Let's stick without pizza shop example. When it comes to margin (ie how much...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Hmm, not in any mainstream Christian theology I know about. I'm not aware of any theology that puts them in Heaven before the fall. The way I'm reading your response is that you seem to think that...
  27. Re: Increasing the Minimum Wage hurts those most vulnerable in our society.

    How would you do that? We've seen in the evidence that that almost never happens that overall takehome pay decreases. Remember, they are getting two hours less work from you, so they are going to...
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    Re: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

    Well sort of, Socialism itself is a transitional state. So, during Socialism that process would occur. Because Socialism is the transitional state where all the bad things would happen as a society...
  29. Re: Increasing the Minimum Wage hurts those most vulnerable in our society.

    Sure. And you have less take home pay. That is what several studies posted here have shown, that the cut in hours overcomes the additional pay. So, let's go with your example.

    Pre-MW
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    Re: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

    Sure, in Neue Rheinische Zeitungboth, both Engels and Marx referred to groups in Europe that could not (rather than would not) achieve class consciousness. Groups like the Magyars, the Slavs, and...
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