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  1. Re: Christianity and the Salvation of Unbelievers

    @ sig, it is persuasive in the same way that math class or history class is persuasive. You are clearly approaching the subject matter as an American in the 2000s. Not as the Jews who were hearing it...
  2. Re: An omniscient creation deity invalidates free will

    @ mican, I can agree with that too.
    There seems to be multiple solutions possible.
    Making the op flawed.
  3. Re: An omniscient creation deity invalidates free will

    The problem is, it supposes that you actually made both choices, and God Just ratified the one He wanted.
    I disagree with that premise, and challenge it on a different level.

    I think your point...
  4. Re: Christianity and the Salvation of Unbelievers

    The law of faith is laid out and explored, juxtaposed to works, and explained the role of works (which is not a salvific role).
    https://www.simplybible.com/f828-think-a-law-of-faith.htm

    Romans 3...
  5. Re: An omniscient creation deity invalidates free will

    @mican and Even.
    I think the OP is saying that there is a world in which you choose A, and there is a world in which you choose ~A, and God chooses which of those worlds to create/actualize/bring...
  6. Re: Christianity and the Salvation of Unbelievers

    @ sig.. (on Jesus Claiming to be God)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1N5Mh42ziA

    Jesus very clearly and powerfully claims to be God. Sometimes in ways that are not very apparent to us today,...
  7. Re: An omniscient creation deity invalidates free will

    Your example is not limiting free will though.
    Poo tasting good is not a "limiting" factor, it is an influencing factor. A limiting factor would make it impossible.
    Such as, I may want to choose...
  8. Re: Christianity and the Salvation of Unbelievers

    Except.. Jesus didn't enable the law to save.
    What it is said He did, is that He offered a new Law, the law of faith. Which, again is drawn in contrast with the law.
    So I don't see the resolution...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: War on the poor

    what do you mean "fair look"? I am not arguing for or against the fairness of it.
    for all I care, you can say to the OP.
    You know what, you are correct, and it is a good thing. Thus conciding the...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: War on the poor

    That makes no sense. There has to be sides, and I only showed one side... so there is no war?
    If I showed a side, then there are sides.. so then there is a war.. at least according to your reasoning...
  11. Re: Christianity and the Salvation of Unbelievers

    Enock and Elijah were both taken up. If you are going to go extra biblical in the reference then you are not reflecting the majority of Christianity.

    Other than that, thanks for the explanations.
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: War on the poor

    Except, that it doesn't actually rebut anything the OP says.

    The war on the poor is defined by the side effects of your 1,2 and 3. It is not a denial of those things.
    Well, except with #1. Help...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: War on the poor

    But so what, non of that is relevant to the point I made.
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: War on the poor

    You are completely missing the point.

    1) The laws have good intentions. So your tent city is a good example.
    2) The laws Don't actually fix the problem the poor face, it just makes it illegal....
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    Re: Democrats HR 1 (2019)

    @ even.
    No, it is the one that only racists oppose.
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    Re: Democrats HR 1 (2019)

    It was always known to be unconstitutional. It was held as necessary due to the war and what not. All the underpening justifications ie fear of voting descrimination, was found to be not an issue.
    ...
  17. Re: An omniscient creation deity invalidates free will

    Not under a free will model.
    Individuals are manifesting/creating choices and actions.


    As long as it is a self defining limitation, and not an outside one it isn't a limitation which...
  18. Re: An omniscient creation deity invalidates free will

    Not exclusively. If he was the only one involved in the creation process.. specifically of our choices. Then determinism would be the best explanation. By excluding co-creation, you smuggle ,I think,...
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    Re: The Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

    Sorry, I thought it was pretty commonly understood.
    Here is what I am referring too.

    https://www.taylorlawco.com/blog/reasonable-suspicion-and-probable-cause-what-s-the-difference.cfm


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    Re: Democrats HR 1 (2019)

    No, that was the supreme courts argument. Specifically that there was no reason to continue the sanctions on the southern states.
    So you are just factually wrong with your slander of the south.
    ...
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    Re: The Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

    Support in the form of reasoning, which is what I offered, is support.
    And I was just trying to speak your language... Zing!
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    Re: Democrats HR 1 (2019)

    I don't know what " a history of racial.. bla bla" is referencing. The southern states were recently restored to their historical roll of controlling elections. Due to the fact that the civil war was...
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    Re: Historical Accuracy in Movies

    O.k. So, I really am in agreement with you Mican. So I will try to delve into some of the aspects that lead to these expectations, and when we should feel that the historicity has been violated in a...
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    Re: The Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

    Alligation is something anyone says. as I pointed out it is vague. Propoganda agents can make an alligation, tabloids can make an alligation. It is just too general of a term to apply any wheight to...
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    Re: Democrats HR 1 (2019)

    I have no clue what you are on about. Everyone who is elligable to vote, can vote with the same effort that I put in so that I could vote.
    There are no hoops. Brown people can vote. The nation is...
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    Re: The Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

    allegations, is not the legal standard.
    Reason to suspect a crime is.
    I can make allegations against anyone.. doesn't mean there is reason to suspect a crime. This highlights the vagueness of...
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    Re: Democrats HR 1 (2019)

    the voting rights section is an issue for states rights. I think it violates them, and over steps the const powers of the fed.
    As it is, the states are in charge of how they register, and how they...
  28. Re: An omniscient creation deity invalidates free will

    Sure, the idea that God is choosing the choice that will be made, is the definition of determinism. It is presented as God choosing to create the world that you choose a as opposed to creating the...
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    Re: The Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

    I did.. it was specifically that the Dems appear to be fishing for a crime in order to hurt a political opponent.
    It was a bit neuanced in it's delivery so no worries if you missed it.
    As you did...
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    Re: The Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

    I was waiting for a point, but I guess I will just have to guess.

    1) That Rep were fishing in regards to Clinton.
    If true.. this is what-about-ism at it's finest. It doesn't become good,...
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