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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    Claims of support is not support. And as I said, I figure no evidence will be forthcoming and I was right.
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    Claims of support is not support. So no, you haven't supported your positions.

    I figure no evidence will be forthcoming.
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    And will you be supporting your beliefs on the matter by presenting such evidence on this thread? If not, then your position fails due to lack of support.



    But then you've provided no reason...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    Since this distinction is irrelevant to my argument, I was just using the words interchangeably. If it's that big a deal, I will use the acronym PD for "Pedophilic Disorder" and use that term...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    That's fine. It doesn't effect my point either way. I'm saying that the reason pedophilia (or pedophilic disorder) is considered a disorder is because of the harm that it causes. The notion that...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    But then the case that whether the current categorization is based primarily on anything other than objective facts and a reasonable definition of what is and is not a mental disorder has not been...
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    But then I assume you will agree that ultimately there is no debate to be had.
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    Re: Another abortion debate opportunity.

    But I see no more reason to accept your position than to accept the opposing position that would typically argue that the unborn is just as deserving of the right to not be killed as a born human and...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    A child is pre-pubescent so you weren't a child at 16. Pre-pubescent children cannot give consent and likewise it's the attraction to the pre-pubescent that defines one as a pedophile.

    While it...
  10. Re: Shouldn't there be a thread on sexual harassment?

    Considering that that is in no way the content of my rebuttal to your "dilution" argument, your rejection is based on some very faulty reasoning. Nor is it my position that the movement is directed...
  11. Re: Shouldn't there be a thread on sexual harassment?

    First off, I rebutted your argument that the movement is particularly amorphous or "diluted" in my last post. You can ignore my rebuttal for any reason you care to forward but until you do offer a...
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    Re: Why is Pedophilia Categorized as a Disorder?

    There is no such thing as a willing child. Just like there's no such thing as a married bachelor.

    A child is technically incapable of giving consent to sexual activity and therefore can never be...
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    Re: Who Gets to Choose?

    This is pretty much a non-issue. Obviously the Roe decision referred exclusively to "woman" based on the premise that only women can be pregnant. If someone who is legally declared a man got...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    I'd say it's even more basic than that but generally, yes. And I have supported that by providing the definition of "thought".

    Again,

    "an individual act or product of thinking"
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Please note that there are currently no challenges in this post. Any existing challenges have been withdrawn. In one instance, the challenge has been replaced with a question, which I assume is...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    I disagree. I've never heard a transgendered person argue that nor am I aware of this being their position. So again, support or retract your assertion.




    The definition your provided said...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Support or retract this assertion.

    To be clear on my objection, I think, and therefore believe that a transgendered person would think, that the reason they identify as a particular gender is an...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Straw-man argument. No one has argued that gender is malleable and determined by thought nor is that the view of transgendered people.

    I'm pretty sure that they will consistently forward that...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    But as far as I can tell, you've never identified the aspect of PHYSICAL REALITY that transgendered people supposedly deny.

    A transgendered woman does not typically deny any aspects of physical...
  20. Re: Shouldn't there be a thread on sexual harassment?

    Focusing on something does not mean that it's separate from something else. So until you show me where I actually said otherwise, I will ignore this argument.




    Which does not mean that the...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Well, for a "know in my heart" example, let's say that someone has a vivid experience of feeling God's presence and from that becomes convinced that God exists.

    We can question whether the person...
  22. Re: Shouldn't there be a thread on sexual harassment?

    And I believe I have rebutted all arguments concerning this. You are now just repeating your original argument as opposed to countering my most recent rebuttals.



    And I said otherwise?


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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    But them I'm pretty sure almost everyone else thinks that there is a significant difference between something that can contribute to a disorder and the disorder itself. If you fail to notice the...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    I didn't offer a rebuttal because I wasn't going to respond to your post until you either support that I said what you claimed I said or retracted it. Thank you for showing the showing the decency...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    Your claim that I said that transgenderism is a carcinogen. Neither of the quotes you pasted say that.

    Really, I was hoping you'd have the decency to retract an offensive claim that you...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    The difference is not merely semantic (as in it's just about what word we are using). The cause of the disease and the disease itself are indeed two different things. I mean I can point out...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    mental disorder any clinically significant behavioral or psychological syndrome characterized by distressing symptoms, significant impairment of functioning, or significantly increased risk of death,...
  28. Re: Shouldn't there be a thread on sexual harassment?

    So i can't say you, Ibelsd, committed murder? But I can say that. Hey everyone, Ibelsd committed murder! (Obviously I'm saying that only as a debate example and do not forward that, you, Ibelsd,...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    But we are still using the clinical definition of a "disorder".

    Someone crying so hard that they aren't paying attention and walking into traffic would suffice as "harmful grieving" but does not...
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    Re: Gay/Transgender

    For simplicities sake within the debate, I've said "harmful grieving" but the notion that "harmful grieving" would actually be a valid definition for a disorder is not supported at all. In fact, I...
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