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  1. Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    But why is that even an argument? Naturalism doesn't make any such claims, so why is it a critique to say they can't show such? It's nonsensical.



    Honestly the more you try to rebuttal the less...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: "Womans" sports

    When I say "the people involved in the situation" I mean two groups. The athletes, and the Olympic committee that sets the rules. None of the athletes tried to deny her chosen gender, nor does the...
  3. Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    I'm curious what that argument is for that last point, but...

    Are illogical worlds possible? No, but logic could be different in different worlds. The logic of our world would not necessarily be...
  4. Re: Why Putin wanted his puppet Trump as president

    Why? When he is a known serial liar, and a blowhard, and deeply ignorant on many subjects, why should we care one whit about what he says? If he says to contradictory things, as he often does, which...
  5. Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Well, the assumptions I mean are these..

    1. That logic is a "force" in and of itself rather than simply a language for describing reality.

    2. That an idea has any reality beyond representation....
  6. Re: Why Putin wanted his puppet Trump as president

    The US commitment to NATO has not changed in any appreciable way. Trump has said some ****, but the most important thing to know about Trump is that nothing he says much matters.



    Trump also...
  7. Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    I'm just reacting to the arguments posted in the video you posted.

    This is a thread about dualism, and you offer an argument for dualism. It hinges upon the idea that logic is in some way...
  8. Re: Why Putin wanted his puppet Trump as president

    I don't put much stock in the , "would have if he could have" type critiques. It's pure speculation. Nato allies are not enamored of Trump, but Nato isn't truly smaller or weaker in a practical...
  9. Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    No one was ever confusing gravity with logic. So that would simply be a strawman if that is the point of it. I think you may have missed the point of the illustration if that is what you think it's...
  10. Re: Why Putin wanted his puppet Trump as president

    The US will not go to war with Russia over an eastern European country unless their actions are absolutely outrageous. Say, a full-scale military invasion of one of the sovereign nations.

    I...
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    Re: Trump gets played by GM and corporations

    Ya, not sure I follow.

    I'm guessing he means the big tax break, but that was done for pretty much all businesses. I'm sure they will enjoy that, but the tariffs that China is throwing up pretty...
  12. Thread: Collusion!

    by Sigfried
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    Re: Collusion!

    To prove it, you need two things.


    Hard proof he met with Assange
    Proof that they reached some kind of mutual agreement or a coordination of Assange's activities. If Assange was just Was only...
  13. Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Ideas are representations, they don't exist except as representations. Every idea you have is representational. And it is represented by physical connections, electricity, and chemistry in your...
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    Re: Silence on the Right

    The right's attack on Clinton for her emails was horribly over-wrought. She did wrong, but it was deemed not a crime, and it didn't endanger the US in any appreciable way. She was arrogant, careless,...
  15. Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    MindTrap

    You should look more into AI advances of the recent years. They have self-aware machines that are capable of recognising their own existence and identity. It's not actually all that...
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    Re: To Europe - Put Up and Shut Up

    That doesn't mean everything he wants is automatically bad for us. We need to make our decisions based on our own strategy and goals, not his. Example: If Putin wants peace, that doesn't mean we...
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    When you say "We don't want to let those Muslims in here!" you are judging all Muslims that could be let in based on their membership of a culture. That is bigotry. You are not judging them as...
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    Re: To Europe - Put Up and Shut Up

    Why should we care what Putin wants?

    The idea of our presence there is to create stability. And it likely does that to some degree. But I do think that maintaining a war footing at all times all...
  19. Thread: Sig After ODN

    by Sigfried
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    Sig After ODN

    FYI: I'm easy to find on the internet, just look for "Sigfried Trent" and you will find me.

    I welcome folks to come and argue on my personal blog if you like.

    http://www.sigfriedtrent.com/
  20. Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    LOL, farewell arguments.

    Consider this on the topic of logic...

    Every computer that exists is nothing but logical. They all operate on digital logic as a base mechanism, and they do so at a...
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    That's what all bigots will tell you, that its because they are right, they really are superior to other people and thus those people aren't as deserving of rights and privileges as they are. That is...
  22. Re: Mind Trapped by: Supreme court nominations and sexual assault accusations

    To my mind, a bit of jibing and rhetoric is part of the fun of debate. You want a little passion and pathos to happen. If we are too dry it takes away some of the humanity of the effort to fight for...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: "Womans" sports

    They are willing to compete against their same sex/gender. They and the Olympic committee treat them as the gender they have transitioned to, rather than the one they started with. I get that you...
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    Re: ODN Update / Changes

    When my spelling checker DCs I think that everything is looking great when in fact it just isn't checking. :( My spelling is fundamentally bad, only technology saves me and when it fails, I fail. ...
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    Re: ODN Update / Changes

    I have reviews for some of the debate sites that are out there on http://www.debatedojo.com/ (my debate culture blog which I don't post on very often)

    ---------- Post added at 11:47 PM...
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    True, but it is if your argument is that they are inherently bad people, rapists, murderers, etc... only when they aren't whites.



    True, it is religious bigotry instead.



    It is if you...
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    Re: Ps. I lie you...or do i

    I'm a very stable person. I think having a pathological liar as president of the United States is a disgrace to the character of the nation and is very embarrassing and potentially very dangerous....
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    Re: Ps. I lie you...or do i

    I think that is one of the reasons he has such a terrible reputation for lying. In most presidential lies, they lie to protect themselves from serious political fallout, or they lie to try and...
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    Re: Ps. I lie you...or do i

    She's full of ******** since the person she speaks for is also full of ********.

    Trump lies constantly, those doing his bidding lie along with him. His frequency is pretty well off the charts so...
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    Re: Do NOT Believe Her

    Perhaps you do, I do not. I may not act against someone who I suspect may be guilty, but I may also not especially trust them either.

    So, let's say someone is accused of being a child molester,...
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