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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Yes, we all live in the same reality here. So we are experiencing it and trying to make sense of how it works.

    The thing is, naturalism, as a general discipline, has been staggeringly successful...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    It is more than that though. Every single operation a computer does is binary logic, also known as boolean algebra: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_algebra
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Sure. i feel like this is a discussion that would make more sense in person than in words. Definitions are tricky things in metaphysics.

    Remember that naturalism is an observation of what is, not...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    The "wall" argument is trying to argue that human thoughts can't have truth values in a naturalist worldview. That if naturalism is true, our thoughts must be meaningless.

    In the cat's cradle,...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Because this is what breaks down your wall. The horse causes the thought of a horse. That is why the thought of a horse, the brain state has a causal connection to the reality of the horse. Reality...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Well, that pretty much kills that discussion. :(

    ---------- Post added at 01:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:30 AM ----------



    Um... you do know causality is directional right? ...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Whatever it is you believe is what I am asking about. If you think it is immaterial, answer that way, if you think your mind is physical, answer that way.

    Question: How do you think you gain the...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    You ended your post with a call for questions..

    Question: How do you think you gain the idea of a "rock" in your mind?
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    The point being offered flies in the face of real experience. It might as well be a rainbow farting unicorn. I guess if all the substance it can offer is to make bad observations, I will just walk...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Um... look. Lets say a rock falls on my head, it really hurts and leaves a bruise. I say "I just got hit by a rock."
    You: "How do you know?"
    Me: "It hurt, here is the rock, here is my bruise."...
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    I don't see how. I find this whole notion that we build a construct, and then the world needs to follow from that as being a good way to find knowledge. First, we have to accept that the universe is...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    But why is that even an argument? Naturalism doesn't make any such claims, so why is it a critique to say they can't show such? It's nonsensical.



    Honestly the more you try to rebuttal the less...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    I'm curious what that argument is for that last point, but...

    Are illogical worlds possible? No, but logic could be different in different worlds. The logic of our world would not necessarily be...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Well, the assumptions I mean are these..

    1. That logic is a "force" in and of itself rather than simply a language for describing reality.

    2. That an idea has any reality beyond representation....
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    I'm just reacting to the arguments posted in the video you posted.

    This is a thread about dualism, and you offer an argument for dualism. It hinges upon the idea that logic is in some way...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    No one was ever confusing gravity with logic. So that would simply be a strawman if that is the point of it. I think you may have missed the point of the illustration if that is what you think it's...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Ideas are representations, they don't exist except as representations. Every idea you have is representational. And it is represented by physical connections, electricity, and chemistry in your...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    MindTrap

    You should look more into AI advances of the recent years. They have self-aware machines that are capable of recognising their own existence and identity. It's not actually all that...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    LOL, farewell arguments.

    Consider this on the topic of logic...

    Every computer that exists is nothing but logical. They all operate on digital logic as a base mechanism, and they do so at a...
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