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    Re: Gay Reparations

    Yes, it exists as a social fact in an external sense from the individual, the agreed upon (constructed) way of doing something by the base of society (not necessarily the majority). Individuals then...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    Because it is taken as a social fact - an objective - until it no longer is. That is until the social base no longer supports it - enough people stop internalizing it as a way of "that is how things...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    Not quite the same way I don't think Victoria ordered people to be stoned to death, just wanted it stopped in polite society.
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    No. "in a manner and scope that had not existed before"

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    Because it is subjective in that it can be...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    Which, either way, is, again, support for homophobia as a social construct.

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    Sure it is. It describes...
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    I'll do better...here's who constructed it:



    *constructed

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    Wait, ok I think I see where you're going. You're saying homosexuals don't reproduce. Which is wrong and I brought it up before. Heterosexuals don't reproduce for any number of reasons.

    Let's...
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    Right, you have no argument concerning social constructs. So no error.

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    I'm not sure what force you're...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    I've already agreed that not every thing must be required to be a natural condition. That says nothing about social constructs.
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    Because what different societies find attractive varies between cultures and across time. Oh, I'm sure I've heard of some attractiveness standards that bridge cultures, such as a semitric looking...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    You compared it with a disease. If you aren't comparing it that your argument is irrelevant.
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    Societies choose what they find attractive.

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    Then how can you compare it to something that is natural? ...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    This was the latest instance, post 153. The "things that aren't necessary" you gave an example of as a disease which is biological construct. You then compared that to homophobia (a social...
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    There's nothing to misread. You compared a societal construct with a biological mechanism, that is a false equivalence. They are not the same.

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    Ok, right, and you made the equivocation error comparing a societal construct to a disease which is a biological one.

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    Re: Gay Reparations

    Ok, describe that bias.
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    Wasn't that your argument to make? I think it was. That it is natural.

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    Not just homosexuals. Again,...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    Maybe in a biological setting. Maybe.

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    Ok, I can agree to that somewhat regarding the actual physical...
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    Right, I don't think I'm doubting your analysis since you've done so much work on this. If the demand is there I would the owner cut hours more? Or something else such as training.
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    I'm not sure. That's why I said tentatively. What natural pressures? To reproduce?

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    Not in a social...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    I actually tentatively agree with that in that reproduction is a natural factor. The only mistake I don't want us to make is that we're not talking about monogamous relationships exclusively.
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    And it was rebutted in that a disease is a biological construct, not a social one. Apples and oranges.
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    Ok, but you're not suggesting that pretty always means the same thing?

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    But fear is and we aren't...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    Marid Gras is not a straight pride parade.

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    Of course it does since even if said society originated with...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    Your belief is irrelevant. I've shown support of cultures where homosexuals are not only feared they are admired and hold high status.

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    Re: Gay Reparations

    It's society's fault.

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    I have, as supported. Society's where not only is there no homophobia (as a...
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    Same reason you do for the Stonewall persecutions. They are all instances of a projection of the prevailing unjust attitude. Some major, some minor, some able to be adjudicated in the courts, some...
  28. Re: Increasing the Minimum Wage hurts those most vulnerable in our society.

    Ok, wait, no. That was just a quick example. I would cut my hours to take home the same amount of pay - so $130 in each scenario.
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    Re: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

    The movement from socialism to communism, right? But not during socialism, Engels favored the Magyars over the Czechs didn't he? And this doesn't rule out the Utopians.
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    Re: Gay Reparations

    It was implemented here and it's particular brand was developed here and is different than in say India:



    Charlemagne didn't think up the Lavender Scare. Therefore the society here did. You...
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