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    Re: Democrats are More Divisive

    @ mican.
    First you are correct that one can gossip about things that are true.
    The point of using the word "gossip"is not to call a claim false, it is to bring attention to the QUALITY of the...
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    Re: Democrats are More Divisive

    First answer the question I offered, then I would be required to answer "who".
    And.. yes, they are gossip, because there is no evidence to support it yet.
    We have accusation, and speculation. That...
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    Re: Democrats are More Divisive

    CORRECTION.. "Gossiped".


    Well.. yea. They just aren't being targeted by their political opponents in the news.
    that is of course, unless you think that Trump is the ONLY person in America...
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    Re: Democrats are More Divisive

    @ cowboy, except "partying it up" again lacks any context. There is nothing wrong with partying or even being around bad people. I mean he wasn't convicted at the time and there is no evidence that...
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    Re: Democrats are More Divisive

    That is even more misleading.
    I mean.. if the title was "Video of Tump kissing women not Melania", that would be very salacious. But without context.. it isn't news.
    same thing here. A click bait...
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    Re: Democrats are More Divisive

    The video is such a propaganda piece, I don't know why it should be taken seriously.

    For example, consider that on odn you have to support your claimed when making an argument. In the first six...
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    Re: San Junipero

    Yea that is why I said earlier that a more grey area would be a cyborg like replacement.

    - the Mayflower example moves on because if you kept all the pieces you replaced you could build the whole...
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    Re: Trump Engaged in Child Rape

    I would rather not hear of any names untill they start handing out warrants. If there is a little black book.. I am not interested in the medias version of name releases/leaks. As it is just...
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    Re: San Junipero

    Well it depends on personal value as to if it matters. If you prefer that a copy of you continue while you yourself for... Then it would be a good thing.
    However if your goal is to extend your...
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    Re: Trump Engaged in Child Rape

    Thanks.. looks like at least today and maybe tomorrow without power.

    Your going to have to be more clear when you talk about involvement.
    I am curious about the possible intelligence...
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    Re: San Junipero

    The only one we know can be said to continue, is the one in the brain. The other isn't a continuation, but the start of a copy.
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    Re: Trump Engaged in Child Rape

    Sounds like a topic for new thread. I would be happy to comment.
    Personal note... Currently in the middle of storm Barry. So on my phone for now.
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    Re: Trump Engaged in Child Rape

    Fairness doctrine.
    I am afraid you " agreed" to something I didn't imply. Specifically that newsrooms should be separated from opinion. .. that very specifically is not the gov job.

    --...
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    Re: San Junipero

    But conciousness is not a program. It is the experience of the brain. Programs don't experience anything, just like dominoes don't experience anything.
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    Re: San Junipero

    Because, it is just a copy.... as I said before.
    The unique consciousness would persist in the brain still. So that is EVIDENCE that it is different.

    Anyway. if you like just go re-read the...
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    Re: Trump Engaged in Child Rape

    "Partying", when a person goes to a lot of parties and has a lot of parties.. is not the same strength of connection as being on their private jet.
    Also, considering epstien had legal troubles in...
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    Re: Trump Engaged in Child Rape

    Why? Why take such a cynical approach, when I have been pretty consistent across the board. Specifically applying a standard of assumption of innocents until a compelling case has been made, and in...
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    Re: San Junipero

    No, not a soul, but the specific conciousness which is the unique experience of each system with an emergant conciousness.
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    Until that statement is a past tense thing. Where the investigation is concluded. Its pretty much meaningless.
    It isn't that difficult to be patient and wait for this stuff to play out.

    Also, I...
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    Re: Trump Engaged in Child Rape

    I know they say "credible" a lot here... but it really isn't. Just because a guy trump knows is a child sex trafficker, doesn't mean that Trump is guilty by association.
    It also doesn't seem to be...
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    Re: San Junipero

    That kinda differences are not really relevant.
    remember the prestige movie? The reason why his commitment was so great, was because he really couldn't know if HE (his specific consciousness) would...
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    Re: San Junipero

    Circulatory system
    - definitions tend to be what clarified things. Like, what is it that makes blood yours? Probably on the most basic level that it has your DNA. But on a more practical level,...
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    Re: San Junipero

    Ahh.. a continuation of the original. I hadn't heard you say that before.
    We know it is not a continuation of the original, because the original can still exist as a separate and distinct thing.
    ...
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    Re: San Junipero

    Specifically, a unique consciousness. and significant to the OP, a consciousness that is not the original one.
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    Re: San Junipero

    But why would we think it I the same conciousness? New brain = new conciousness.
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    Re: San Junipero

    Well because conciousness is defined as a product of your brain... It is a huge problem.
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    It isn't a problem... IF it is the same consciousness. Which I have offered reasons to doubt that it is.
    I think the artificial heart example is mis applied. because it isn't involved in...
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    Re: San Junipero

    But that isn't the problem we are discussing. it isn't a problem of it being accepted, or being a "real" consciousness or anything like that.
    That some consciousness THINKS it is you, and can't...
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    Re: San Junipero

    No they are similar, but they are dis similar in the relevant point at hand.
    That they are two later on, is concrete evidence that they are not the same consciousness, which is the relevant point. ...
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    Re: San Junipero

    us not being able to tell which one is the original, is not the same as there not actually being an original.
    I concede that we may not be able to detect which one is the original, due to the...
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