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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    Well...I'm not sure about that. Incidental would seem to invalidate his claims. Obama couldn't order incidental collection by definition, because its an accident if you happen to hear someone.
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    Or more likely that it was an intermediary that had been added to a wiretap via a warrant expansion. If it was a direct Russian agent that would argue, imo, for this not being a serious issue. The...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    Should note that it is "incidental collection" which has a specific meaning.
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    Re: Terms in the abortion debate

    If a young child at the party pointed to your pregnant wife and asked, "what's in there?" 99% of expectant mothers would say "my baby" not "my fetus." Thus the example works both ways. In fact,...
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    Re: The Leprechaun's Challenge

    I was being somewhat facetious, sometimes the jokes fall a bit flat on the internet sorry. I meant to play off the phrase "But not all that glitters is gold..." which is similar to Tolkein's poem:...
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    Re: The Leprechaun's Challenge

    I could sue him for plagiarizing Tolkien and then I wouldn't have to weigh the coins?
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    Re: Big Win for Climate Scientist

    I don't think the conclusion that it produces similar results is warranted. You are talking about them moving to a new raw data set, not that the new data set has been run through the methodology in...
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    Re: Big Win for Climate Scientist

    That seems to be a widely popular decision by NOAA, and would seem to be the right thing to do. Here is the problem related to this discussion. It has no relevance to the paper or criticism. K15...
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    Re: Big Win for Climate Scientist

    And? Neither of these data sets include the ARGOS data, which is considered, even by your reference, as the gold standard in sea temperature. This response seems to have little to do with the...
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    Re: Big Win for Climate Scientist

    Interesting, though clarifying point. David Rose made no such claim. He reported a claim by Dr John Bates a scientist with an impeccable reputation.





    This is a perfect example of a Red...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    To be fair, Alex Jones wasn't really a Republican back then. His ilk tend to move between parties to suit their particular tin foil hat ideas. He accused Bush of being behind chemtrails for...
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    Re: Big Win for Climate Scientist

    Breaking story coming from a well respected scientist at NOAA who claims that NOAA used unreliable data that was later discarded in order to rush this study out for the Paris talks. He notes that...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    Cowboy, Trump (and later Pence's) comments about the moral equivalence of US and Russia might be more fitting to your OP than the examples you've offered thus far. ...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    Understandable, no worries. Katie Pavlich is a writer at Townhall, a source I think we can agree is generally right of center. Her book is titled, " Assault and Flattery: The Truth About the Left...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    It is cited in the article I originally linked.
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    Fair enough, I'll wait for his response and then we can have a discussion, if you wish, on whether that was the appropriate information or not.

    Until then all we have is a single NYT reporter...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    As with the "full packet" the "right" [sic] isn't a definable object to compare against. It is a vague and nebulous term that allows you to offer unclear and imprecise arguments. Who on the Right?...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    It does matter what it is called, words have meaning Cowboy. There is a reason professions have specific terms with specific contexts and vernaculars. Lawyers use specific words to mean specific...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    I'm not sure what you mean when you say "full package." That isn't a doctrinal term in the military, hence why I never used it in my response. That was a term used by a New York Times reporter, all...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    Your request is internally incoherent. Do you want me to support a claim or are you asking what my belief is? Those are two different requests.

    The former is the more restrictive, so I will...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    For a group so concerned with fake news, you guys sure do push a lot of it:


    The botched military operation in Yemen that killed a US Navy SEAL and over a dozen al Qaeda terrorists and...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    Hmm, Cowboy, if the Republicans are being hypocrites on these issues, aren't you also engaging in hypocrisy by engaging in the criticism you once defended?
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    I think you are engaging in a equivocation fallacy here. "Share" does not imply they didn't create the story, only that they were the sources of the information. ie: "to give specific users access...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    Sure, the original claim was brought up by two Clinton campaign members. One, was an underling and fired. The other was Mr. Blumenthal, who still works with Ms. Clinton. ...
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    Re: Republican Hypocracies

    How could they have arisen in the "right wing" given their origins in the Clinton campaign?
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    Re: Democrat == Crybaby

    Just a quick clarifying question. Do you actually believe that the entire Republican field gave Mr. Trump a pass on this issue or is this more a hyperbole to affect a point?
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    Gents, please keep any posts in this thread confined to the topic.
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    Re: Big Win for Climate Scientist

    Hi Cowboy, I think the link you offered didn't get pasted correct. Do you still have the reference?
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    Just to clarify. Ibelsd did support his claim, see the quote above. You've offered counter evidence to that claim, but that doesn't really change that it was supported, just whether it is, in fact,...
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    Re: Big Win for Climate Scientist

    Hi Cowboy, could I ask a quick clarifying question? Is your intent with this to discuss:

    1) The relation between policy debates and free speech?

    2) The nature of Dr. Mann's work?

    3) The...
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