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  1. Re: Looking for the relationship between "evidence" and "reason for belief"

    There are a few points here:

    #1 - Logic, contrary to many opinions, is not something that necessarily leads to 100% proof. There are two type of logical reasoning, deductive and inductive. ...
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    Re: $15 per hour at McDonalds

    Well, you could start with getting accurate numbers ... there are a couple of numbers there that scream 'wrong' - like $81,000 for utilities? $391,000 rent and 'fees' the franchise fee is $45K a...
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    Re: How is this right?

    Enough Micca - you lost.

    Ou can't issue a challenge about the 'preponderance' of the evidence - that is called fallaciously shifting the burden of proof. We have the testimony, the religion,...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    It didn't.





    When someone is a card carrying 'rationalist' talking about science and logic, whether they follow Jesus or not, we should still expect more from them then obviously blind...
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    Re: How is this right?

    Agh yeah, I have. I specifically quoted the portion relevant to PDA's - hand holding acceptable, smooching is not - not even for married couples. So we are disregarding evidence that doe snot...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    I'll address the rest later.

    However, what you write above is EXACTLY the danger of militant atheism's assault on religion. Not only do we have the gratuitous grasp of a small religious minority...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    And why would bigotry be the cause bigotry? That basically flips the premise and say that a bunch of hate mongers are not the cause of low opinion, but are somehow victims of it? That makes no...
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    Re: How is this right?

    Let's just address the sudden ignorance on Islam here that requires us to disavow what is openly practiced in say ... Saudi Arabia. We are not just appealing to ignorance on this one, we are openly...
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    Re: How is this right?

    I am fairly certain at this point that you are not grasping the logic of discrimination. It is an action that is taken against one group that is not taken against another. You have presented no...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    First off, great post! The partisan sniping on this particular subject can be ... absurd and difficult, but reasonable insight that you lay out above is compelling.

    Let me see if I can paint...
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    Re: How is this right?

    Yes Mican, you have repeatedly stated its discrimination because its 'only applied' to homosexuals. Unfortunately, we definitely know that is not the case, based on religious reasoning and based on...
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    Re: How is this right?

    I think you are fundamentally missing the point.

    Exactly HOW is asking someone to stop kissing, regardless or their sexual orientation, an act of discrimination? We've been through the, "well,...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    I disagree on one aspect of this, that militant atheism is merely a reaction to fundamentalist religion. Atheism has been around a long time, and so has religion in all its best and worst forms -...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    Yes, and no. On an individual level the two are equivalent. There is little difference between a Christian who bashes a Muslim or an atheist, and a Klansman who bashes black people and Jews. The...
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    Re: How is this right?

    #1 - Mr Hyde has provided several sources that include the drivers statements.

    #2 - Sherlock looks at the available evidence, not 'all' (which is something of a misnomer, because we never have...
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    Re: How is this right?

    When you examine the facts, as known, this is a case of utter frivolity. It's not like the teachings of Islam about sexuality are some deeply hidden culture secret revealed to only a select few. ...
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    Re: How is this right?

    The problem is, he did not.

    Its entirely probable that we just have an activist judge on our hands.

    And we still have the issue of gross over reach here on the part of the lesbians. On...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    No offense brother, but when you read the horrific passages of some of these authors, the only proper response is outrage. There is something distinctly dysfunctional about assigning value to a...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    While I agree with most of this, I would add a slight observation to this. I don't in my wildest dream pretend that 'religion' in all it's diversity is free from criticism. Some of the things...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    So its mad hatter bigotry to quote what Chris Hitchens ACTUALLY says? Again, as I made clear, this crap is in the public domain and your fallacious appeal emotion, 'how dare someone quote these guys...
  21. Thread: The right way

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    Re: The right way

    The former, and if you read the story, you will note that there is debate, even within this homosexual Christian Community, about whether the scripture means they should be celibate or not.

    What...
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    Re: How is this right?

    And yet you are not actually making a case that it is not frivolous. You were not there either brother, but I am a human being, and if someone told me to stop kissing my wife - I might get peeved,...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    There are some serious accusation here by GP, and I want to clarify the challenge I made to GP:

    #1 - you have accused my actions of being an emotional tirade, rather than accurately quoting...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    See New Atheist movement.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atheism

    Here are the four horseman of anti-theism.

    https://www.pinterest.com/EDOUTDOORGUYNL/the-four-horsemen-of-anti-thiesism/
    ...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    Actually what is really remarkable, is that I can quote Chris Hitchens and Richard Dawkins, and call the former a raging jerk and that you would run to the mods claimng that you are a victim of flame...
  26. Thread: The right way

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    The right way

    Im here to ask your forgiveness, he said quietly.

    Ive been a pastor with a conservative denomination for more than thirty years, and I used to be an antigay apologist. I knew every argument,...
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    Re: How is this right?

    Well then - that would be precisely the problem I am pointing out. Whatever you are doing here then, isn't relevant is it?

    ---------- Post added at 11:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:11...
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    Re: Are militant atheists delusional?

    Please.

    Are you telling me that Richard Dawkins does not exist? That Chris Hitchens did not exist? That Jeff Tayler did not publish the article in the OP? That Sam Harris did not exist? The...
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    Re: How is this right?

    And yet they do all the time.

    http://www.register-herald.com/news/local_news/judge-lectures-defendants-on-parenting-stealing/article_c5db8a13-48f9-55ca-a6cc-d31f815d9baa.html?mode=jqm

    There...
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    Re: How is this right?

    D, you are not stupid - FAR from it.

    So the ... I wouldn't call the submission above an argument. Let me demonstrate:

    Question: Why is it 'discrimination' to tell two lesbians to stop...
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