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    Re: Silence on the Right

    Anything top secret?
  2. Re: Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    Well, not with that attitude mister. :)

    As to the NDE stuff, I really didn't want to focus on that, because it isn't really well established science. I only wanted to point out that it isn't...
  3. Mind Trapped by: Songs Apok should listen to while decomissioning ODN

    Post your suggestion...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QptZ8tYZAkE
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    Re: Sig After ODN

    Will drop in every once in a while. Thanks for the link.
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    @ Dio, thanks ever so much for being here, with me at the end. As the only member of ODN that I have met in person, I hold you in a very special place in my memory of this place. I hope you are well,...
  6. Mind Trapped by: One Trap to rule them all

    One Mind Trap to Rule them all!



    -Introduction and thanks-
    For the past 12 years I have had the pleasure of debating on this site, and it has been an influential part of my life. Each of you...
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    Re: ODN Update / Changes

    What about just all meeting on the FB page?

    Maybe include that info in final link?
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    @ cowboy, untill you show someone anyone relevant to the debate of proposing tax IDs. Your assertion that it is based I racism is simply not supported and sounds more like wako left wing propaganda. ...
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    @ cowboy.. not moving goal posts the context is about Mai stream political movements. Like those calling for voter ID's. Find one of them and you may have a point. Just finding some backwater nobody...
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    @ cowboy.. you are free to quote a congressman or senator that has said they are seeking to keep blacks from voting.
    But yea.. I am sure.

    The current socially acceptable way to disenfranchise...
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    My local DMV requires a blood test, apparently they are on that "One Drop" standard.
    It's a bit strict, having a black relative 10 generations ago disqualifies you.
    But you know that racist...
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    @ cowboy.. yea, because that part of history is not what is being addressed. No one TODAY is arguing that black people shouldn't vote. No one is seeking that end.
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    Re: It isn't Racist to...

    That is a red-herring and a straw-man.
    No one said they don't want black people to vote.
    What was forwarded is that it isn't racist to require and ID to vote, because requiring and ID is not...
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    Re: Mind Trapped by: "Womans" sports

    That isn't really true. The rules that allow it are not created through democracy, it is just done for PC reasons by those in control.
    The athletes involved have serious issues with it. So much so...
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren: Cherokee or Fraud?

    Yes, the latter doesn't result in being counted by your employer's against their minority count.
    Which is what happened with Warren.


    Seems to be revisionist of the past.
    She claimed...
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    Re: Do NOT Believe Her

    @ future.. I appreciator your response, but have been too busy to spend the time on the response I want to give.
    Given current events, I concede the thread.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren: Cherokee or Fraud?

    @ future.
    First problem.. this isn't a witch Hunt. That would imply that there is no problem. However the problem has been pretty well evidenced, namely that she has appropriated for herself...
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    Re: Christianity is a conspiracy

    I'm afraid your question is nonsensical.
    and a red-herring.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren: Cherokee or Fraud?

    hahaha!.. O man I needed a good belly laugh today. It has been such a long work week... thanks.


    I am sure it is a bridge too far, but I'm not sure I understand a logical distinction. It is a...
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren: Cherokee or Fraud?

    @ ibelsd... Those are some really good questions directly relevant to this discussion and to some larger social implications as well.

    Suppose we do generally accept self identification, how are...
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    Re: Ps. I lie you...or do i

    @ future. .
    If you feel like conservatives are condoning or have become acceptable of the lies of Trump, you are wrong.
    We generally don't like a lot of what Trump says, and I would join you in...
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren: Cherokee or Fraud?

    She claimed to be a member of a minority group.


    You can forward it, but we don't agree on that.
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    Re: Do NOT Believe Her

    @ Future.. I am going to take the shortest route to clearing this up for you.
    1) I retract my original answer as presented. There are too many assumptions in the exchange that are not shared.
    2) I...
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    Re: Ps. I lie you...or do i

    I really don't see this as necessarily a lie.
    I mean, trump did win. It seems like a mis-statement of the nature of that win, but no so far off that we should conclude lying or dereliction of duty...
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    Re: Ps. I lie you...or do i

    Yea
    . Added sorry.

    What is that saying only ascrib to malice what you can't claim on ignorance. .. so yea, that was an error at her job.

    Just seems like very small potato's. Not sure of the...
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    Re: Ps. I lie you...or do i

    While it may be technically false as stated, it probably doesn't pass muster as an intent to lie. Much less some sort of duty violation as an official capacity.
    If she simply omitted the words "of...
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    Re: Do NOT Believe Her

    There are several issues here, and I am only quoting sections.


    So my first concern with the idea of "getting away with no punishment" is the "getting away" portion.
    Because all men are judged,...
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    Re: Do NOT Believe Her

    @ snack, not what I said.. but thanks for playing.
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    Re: Do NOT Believe Her

    @ future.
    My point was, and take this as whatever kind of clarification you need because you seem to be confused on the topic, is that the crime is always punished.

    Now to those not saved you...
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    Re: Do NOT Believe Her

    My objection is that crime doesn't go un-punished. That justice is always served. That was the point of my objection.
    - Christ died long ago so no net change.
    That is not true because those saved...
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