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    Re: What is a Fair Share of taxes for the Rich?

    I guess I'm saying that the way in which the work done by different people is valued is part of what causes issues like income inequality, and that generally, rewarding greed is not a good way to run...
  2. "But, let's discuss the contradiction"

    A recent exchange on ODN reminded me of this gem:
    https://streamable.com/59t0
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    Re: What is a Fair Share of taxes for the Rich?

    Unfortunately, when you get to individuals who are making millions, the concept of "an individual's labour and what they earn for it" gets a bit complicated. While I agree with the basic moral...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    You appear to have dropped this line of discussion in our exchange, so I want to clarify, do you actually have evidence of or any way to reliably confirm the existence of something called "the...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    This question has nothing to do with my statement. Here it is again: There are no methods or tools which have been confirmed to be able to observe and experience anything regarding "the Spirit".
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Again, the bottom line is that you are not presenting any arguments for your specific Xtian theistic beliefs. They therefore remain without the rational justification which you claim they have.
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    Again, you're entitled to your opinion. I've explained the reasoning why first hand experience alone of non-mundane and/or supernatural occurrences is not a valid basis of for the belief that what...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    For non-mundane or every-day experiences, or experiences which there are reasons to doubt due to how fallible we know our minds are, yes, first-hand experience alone is not a valid basis for belief....
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    And you're entitled to your opinion. Fortunately, there are those who actually care whether their beliefs are true, so I'm just going to leave it at that and move on from this pointlessness.
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    In what way is "someone has an experience which they claim was God talking to them" the same as "God actually talks to them"? Claiming a supernatural experience is in no way a demonstration of the...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    A deity which doesn't interact with reality in any detectable way is indistinguishable from a deity which doesn't exist. So there's really no point in discussing it, and any who claim to believe in...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    You asked "who says" you aren't presenting arguments for your Xtian theism, and I replied by pointing out that you do. You then repeated your attempt to justify not presenting arguments for your...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    Sure, personal experiences are detectable ... as experiences. This in no way qualifies as an actual detection of the supernatural. Again, there is absolutely no evidence that a deity of any kind...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    You do:



    It's not my state of acceptance. It's a fact that we have no way of actually confirming or achieving a reasonable certainty about anything that happened prior to the Planck time, so by...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    The chronological difference between Xtianity and the others mentioned is truly negligible compared to some of the even older religions. It may seem like an oversimplified stance, but it is justified...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    You're entitled to your opinion. However, that doesn't change the fact that the KCA alone as you have presented it does not rationally justify believing in the Xtian deity. Again, if you claim to...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    As I've repeatedly explained, arguments which don't necessarily support the specific Xtian theism for which you are attempting to provide rational justification will be ignored. Again, if you want to...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    And yet you wasted so much time continuing to dispute it.

    That is not the entirety of the argument.

    Do you have support for this? I have offered reasons to accept the OP's hypothesis over your...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    I'm sorry, but this is simply getting ridiculous. Let's re-cap.
    OP: "an omnipotent being could easily reveal themselves to everyone at any time and make us all believe"
    Freund - #6: "can you...
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    Re: Theistic beliefs are not rationally justified

    Please provide the full version of the KCA (which concludes with the Xtian deity) that you are attempting to offer as rational justification for belief in said deity. So far, the only KCA presented...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    I find it baffling that it took you nearly three pages to finally cede the point I've been making from the very beginning and which you've been disputing from your very first response. But thanks. So...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    Nothing you've written here has anything to do with your statements in post 6, or anything to do with the fact that a supreme being capable of creating a universe out of nothing is also capable of...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    I haven't made anything up. A supreme being with the ability to create an entire universe from nothing and wants us to know it is mainstream Xtian doctrine, is it not?
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    Again, I've explained the reasoning, and it has nothing to do with my understanding of Xtian doctrine. Either respond to it or move on. Further posts which don't add to the debate will be disregarded...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    I've repeatedly explained to you the reasoning behind the Xtian deity being able to convince everyone. If you're going to continue to claim that Xtians don't actually believe that it can convince...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    I'm sorry, but it's not my fault your beliefs are internally inconsistent. I've offered argumentation for the conclusions being reached. If you refuse to respond and address the conclusions and their...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    Not that I'm surprised or disappointed, but if you refuse to provide valid responses to rebuttals of your arguments, then you abandon them.
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    I've shown that it is so by explaining that your arguments are referring to a deity not included in the OP.
    Here are some examples:
    Mican: That only supports that the deity, if it exists, does not...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    To clarify, the OP is regarding the kind of Xtian theism which claims that non-believers go to hell.

    You're entitled to your opinion, but since faith is not a reliable pathway to truth, any deity...
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    Re: The problem of divine hiddenness

    Then feel free to start your own thread. Any statements not related to the OP will be disregarded as spam.
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