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    A blog from Christian CADRE on early Christian writings

    Here is a fairly recent blog from Christian CADRE, about a find in Jordan that may be a collection of 70 early Christian texts (and I mean very early):

    Tom Gilson, author of the always entertaining and informative (and aptly named) Thinking Christian, has linked to a fascinating article about an archaeological find in Jordan that may prove invaluable to understading the first few years of Christianity.

    According to Jordan battles to regain 'priceless' Christian relics, an article on BBC News by Robert Pigott, a collection of "70 or so 'books', each with between five and 15 lead leaves bound by lead rings, was apparently discovered in a remote arid valley in northern Jordan somewhere between 2005 and 2007." These books are written in some type of Hebrew code, but they contain several relatively clear Christian symbols. The books are presently believed to date about 2000 years ago -- within the first few decades after the death and resurrection of Jesus.

    Photos of the book can be found here.

    The question, according to the article, is not really about the age of the books as much as the content. The books are acknowledged to be very old, but it cannot easily be determined exactly what they say. Thus, it isn't even clear to this point whether these documents are ancient Jewish writings or they are among the earliest, if not the earliest Christian writings.

    At least one expert is leaning towards the former. According to the BBC article,

    One of the few people to see the collection is David Elkington, a scholar of ancient religious archaeology who is heading a British team trying to get the lead books safely into a Jordanian museum.

    He says they could be "the major discovery of Christian history", adding: "It's a breathtaking thought that we have held these objects that might have been held by the early saints of the Church."

    He believes the most telling evidence for an early Christian origin lies in the images decorating the covers of the books and some of the pages of those which have so far been opened.

    Mr Elkington says the relics feature signs that early Christians would have interpreted as indicating Jesus, shown side-by-side with others they would have regarded as representing the presence of God.

    "It's talking about the coming of the messiah," he says.

    "In the upper square [of one of the book covers] we have the seven-branch menorah, which Jews were utterly forbidden to represent because it resided in the holiest place in the Temple in the presence of God.

    "So we have the coming of the messiah to approach the holy of holies, in other words to get legitimacy from God."

    Another person who has examined the books, Robert Feather, seems to believe that they are more Jewish than Christian according to Heavy metal secrets from a Mid-East cave. That article states:

    "The first time I heard about the discovery, I was extremely cautious," Mr Feather said. "However, when I was given an opportunity to see and examine some examples…and visit the cave where they were said to have come from, my scepticism was allayed."

    The books appear to be "Kabbalah-related and the nature of the content indicates a magical incantation style of writing," Mr Feather said. Before 400 CE, almost all ancient codices were made of parchment. The lead codices "predate any form of codex by several hundred years and this particular material was probably chosen to ensure permanency."

    If it is like anything else related to early Christianity, I suspect that the books will take years to authenticate and even longer to translate. This is especially true since the Israeli Antiquities Authority doubts their authenticity describing them as a "mixture of incompatible periods and styles without any connection or logic. Such forged motifs can be found in their thousands in the antiquities markets of Jordan and elsewhere in the Middle East." Of course, experience shows that the IAA is quick to doubt authenticity of almost any new discovery from this period.

    Still, the idea of what these books might say is, to say the least, intriguing to a archaeologicphile like myself. (No idea if archaeologicphile is a word, but it fits.)
    Here are the links he gave in the text:

    http://www.thinkingchristian.net/201...ts-discovered/

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12888421

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9434907.stm

    http://www.thejc.com/judaism/judaism...-mid-east-cave
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    Re: A blog from Christian CADRE on early Christian writings

    Judeo-Christian in origin perhaps?

    Judeo-Christian is the modern scholarly term used to identify the Jews who followed Christ who were not viewed as "Christian" among the gentile followers of the "way" and were not viewed as "Jewish" among the jews in the first decades after Christ.

    (At first it was only non-believers who called followers of Jesus "Christian")

    Simcha Jacobvoici of "Naked Archeologist" fame is fascinated by them and has adocumentary film coming out about them, that is being produced by James Cameron.

    In his TV show he visited a fascinating archeological site from this period. It is odd. As one looks in through the front door, there is a beautiful moosaic of a zodiac on the floor....bt come in some and look to the left and one finds the iconography of a jewish synagogue of this era. How can this be? Why would jews allow pagan symbols where they gather pray and worship.

    A closer look at the zodiac and a few of the symbols are not typical pagan. They seem to be a secret code identifying followers of the way (Jesus) who were outlaws at this time. Simcha's theory for thsi site is that it was designed so if ROman authorities looked in they would think "Oh pagans like us". Simcha thinks this site is a "Judeo-Christian" site.

    Simcha is obviously fascinated enough with this period and subject to devote a film to it.




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    Re: A blog from Christian CADRE on early Christian writings

    Well, according to the sources we have, we can't know yet. You know people will hope for a Q source, or Q sources.
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    Re: A blog from Christian CADRE on early Christian writings

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukecash12 View Post
    Well, according to the sources we have, we can't know yet. You know people will hope for a Q source, or Q sources.
    My money is on it being a fake.

    Most antiquities found in that region today have been shown to be fakes. The ossuary is the most recent one that comes to mind.
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    Re: A blog from Christian CADRE on early Christian writings

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    Why would jews allow pagan symbols where they gather pray and worship.

    A closer look at the zodiac and a few of the symbols are not typical pagan. They seem to be a secret code identifying followers of the way (Jesus) who were outlaws at this time. Simcha's theory for thsi site is that it was designed so if ROman authorities looked in they would think "Oh pagans like us". Simcha thinks this site is a "Judeo-Christian" site.
    That's pretty interesting. It reminds of of the Green Man that so often appears in old churches.

    "...rather than alienate their new converts, early Christian missionaries would often adopt and adapt local gods, sometimes turning them into saints."

    Dufourcq, Albert (1903). La Christianisation des Foules. Paris: Bloud et cie. pp. 44 et sec., quoted in Wilson, Stephen (1983). Saints and their cults. Cambridge University Press. p. 96. ISBN 9780521311816.

 

 

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