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    Mind Trapped By: The american people don't like their gov

    Context, this thread attempts to take a step back from the specifics of the individual facts, and attempts to look at the overall trends.

    Overall I think the trends point to a disturbing underlying fact, that Americans don't really like their current form of gov. Lets start with the most obvious trend.

    1) No matter who is in charge, and over a very long time, people simply don't approve of congress. According to Gallop, it currently stands around 13%.

    Proof A

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    2) Politics has taken a personal and vindictive turn of late. It is no longer about substance, but about revenge and "our team" winning at all costs.

    Proof B
    Republicans impeached Clinton-

    Dem's try to impeach Bush -

    Republicans try to impeach Obama -

    Dems try to impeach Trump -

    Wiki provides a list of those threatened with impeachment movements, and we can notice that most of them are recent.

    1.1 John Tyler
    1.2 James Buchanan
    1.3 Andrew Johnson
    1.4 Ulysses S. Grant
    1.5 Herbert Hoover
    1.6 Harry S. Truman
    1.7 Richard M. Nixon
    1.8 Ronald Reagan
    1.9 George H. W. Bush
    1.10 Bill Clinton
    1.11 George W. Bush
    1.12 Barack Obama
    1.13 Donald Trump

    Conclusion. Impeachment proceedings and talks are used to hurt the other side, and not to defend the country. For the media it is a flexing of persuasive muscle, and ratings. For political opponents it is a chance to hurt the other side, and for the "grass roots" it is an way to express disagreement. For the most part however, it is not done out of respect for our nation and gov, and overall stands as evidence that the people don't like this gov.

    Well, that is a start. Are there other trends of political vindictiveness coming from both sides that could lead one to believe that the people just don't like this gov? Are these two examples accurate? does the conclusion follow?
    Your thoughts.. DISCUSS!
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