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    Mind trapped by - Trump vs Media

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...022356703.html

    the story is, that trump intends to do away with how the white house interacts with the media. instead of a regular briefing where questions are asked and answered by a representative, announcements will be released.


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    the way i see it, this is the natural response to past abuse of power by the press. not in the sense that the press has been unfair to trump, but that it's coverage over the past 50 years has not been fair. the media has been in the business of promoting it's own agenda to the point of being it's own political party. this pressure was eventually going to have this kind of response from the position of president.

    this is a broad, landscape argument. along the lines of geopolitics. where one can see a void in power and predict a war or general action based on the overall pressures at work. here the media has exerted pressure on the office of presidency, and now we are getting the inevitable response to that pressure.

    now what will happen is the media is going to cry about it, the opposition party is going to cry about it -in this case the democrats- and then in 4 - 8 years the other party will be in charge, and because the expectations have changed, will not return to our past state of media relations.

    yay us, just a little bit less of the democratic republic that we need. good job everybody.
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    Re: Mind trapped by - Trump vs Media

    Quote Originally Posted by MindTrap028 View Post
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...022356703.html

    the story is, that trump intends to do away with how the white house interacts with the media. instead of a regular briefing where questions are asked and answered by a representative, announcements will be released.


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    the way i see it, this is the natural response to past abuse of power by the press. not in the sense that the press has been unfair to trump, but that it's coverage over the past 50 years has not been fair. the media has been in the business of promoting it's own agenda to the point of being it's own political party. this pressure was eventually going to have this kind of response from the position of president.

    this is a broad, landscape argument. along the lines of geopolitics. where one can see a void in power and predict a war or general action based on the overall pressures at work. here the media has exerted pressure on the office of presidency, and now we are getting the inevitable response to that pressure.

    now what will happen is the media is going to cry about it, the opposition party is going to cry about it -in this case the democrats- and then in 4 - 8 years the other party will be in charge, and because the expectations have changed, will not return to our past state of media relations.

    yay us, just a little bit less of the democratic republic that we need. good job everybody.
    Let's call a spade a spade and not twist this up. This change is due to Trump's inability to handle the mainstream press competently. It is not a good thing. Yes, the media is biased. It has been beyond harsh to the Trump admin. However, as President, I'd say suck it up and don't crawl into a shell. As you correctly noted, this sets a bad precedent which will be used by the next President and beyond. As goofy as the press conferences have been, the entertainment value has been great. Trump via Spicer says something. The media runs with it, goes into a hissy-fit, Trump then make a direct comment which contradicts Spicer and the media flies of the handle. It is hilarious. None of it matters. It is all a side-show at this point.
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    Re: Mind trapped by - Trump vs Media

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibelsd View Post
    Yes, the media is biased. It has been beyond harsh to the Trump admin.
    That's a silly, unsupported argument that I'd like to see you support, but you don't have to. I assume your lumping all of the media together and not just the press, i.e. SNL.

    Looks like they are doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing and Trump has no one to blame (although he continually tries) but himself. He thought, mistakenly, that he was going to run things like a business where there's so little pushback from your yes-men. Not so in government and especially not with an independent 4th estate. His own statement to the effect that it is harder than he thought it would be proves what a fool you voted for.
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    Re: Mind trapped by - Trump vs Media

    Quote Originally Posted by IBELSD
    Let's call a spade a spade and not twist this up. This change is due to Trump's inability to handle the mainstream press competently.
    O, no you are correct. Trump admin is doing a really bad job. Indeed, one should just take their lumps, but with so many undeserved an unfair lumps being given, and the lack of an actually meaningful dialog hosted by the media, it is simply too easy to dismiss.

    In a way I think the press is getting what it deserves, because it hasn't been giving us what we deserve for so long. There is no real loss here the way things stand we can do without the theatrics anyway.
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    Re: Mind trapped by - Trump vs Media

    Quote Originally Posted by MindTrap028 View Post
    O, no you are correct. Trump admin is doing a really bad job. Indeed, one should just take their lumps, but with so many undeserved an unfair lumps being given, and the lack of an actually meaningful dialog hosted by the media, it is simply too easy to dismiss.
    How do you define "undeserved"?
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    Re: Mind trapped by - Trump vs Media

    Quote Originally Posted by COWBOY
    How do you define "undeserved"?
    Here a good place to start with that would be any coverage that includes swear words.
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    Re: Mind trapped by - Trump vs Media

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyX View Post
    That's a silly, unsupported argument that I'd like to see you support, but you don't have to. I assume your lumping all of the media together and not just the press, i.e. SNL.

    Looks like they are doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing and Trump has no one to blame (although he continually tries) but himself. He thought, mistakenly, that he was going to run things like a business where there's so little pushback from your yes-men. Not so in government and especially not with an independent 4th estate. His own statement to the effect that it is harder than he thought it would be proves what a fool you voted for.
    Perhaps he didn't offer support, so I'll throw some out there.

    A few months back an Alt (Ult? I'm not hip on the new lingo) Right Loon Milo Yiannopoulos was lambasted for his remarks regarding homosexuals and the relationship between older and younger (often below the age of 18) men. His comments essentially added up to the difficulties homosexuals faced in coming to terms with their identity; and that it's not necessarily bad for an older and younger man to have a relationship. In fact, the dynamic can help the younger one grow.

    Whether or not this is true; isn't my point.

    My own opinions aside; the press vehemently attacked him for this position, again whether his opinion is right or wrong here isn't my point. Now, perhaps he is an alt-right loon, and perhaps his views are dangerous. But then why is it that when someone like Bill Maher makes a similar comment (a female teacher and a male student), nothing happens? The media isn't demanding the same action be taken against Maher?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXDrmUJvRmE

    Again, my own opinions aside here I see little difference between what Milo said, and what Bill said.

    I am willing to grant that on both sides of the isle we often see this; however it seems that recently the left has gotten the upper hand. Now, to some degree we could argue this goes back and forth. Anyone remember John Kerry and the Swift Boat Vets for Truth? I remember how heavily played that was; and at the time the right seemed to have an upper hand. I also remember it took a long time to finally discredit them; but unfortunately the damage had been done.

    Perhaps it's not a media bias; so much as it's a power shift; but it isn't baseless to say there exists a bias.

    That isn't to say what they're pointing out with Trump is wrong or un-fair. Not at all, keep pushing him; that's what the press does,
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    Re: Mind trapped by - Trump vs Media

    Quote Originally Posted by MindTrap028 View Post
    Here a good place to start with that would be any coverage that includes swear words.
    I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilPup John View Post
    Perhaps he didn't offer support, so I'll throw some out there.

    A few months back an Alt (Ult? I'm not hip on the new lingo) Right Loon Milo Yiannopoulos was lambasted for his remarks regarding homosexuals and the relationship between older and younger (often below the age of 18) men. His comments essentially added up to the difficulties homosexuals faced in coming to terms with their identity; and that it's not necessarily bad for an older and younger man to have a relationship. In fact, the dynamic can help the younger one grow.

    Whether or not this is true; isn't my point.

    My own opinions aside; the press vehemently attacked him for this position, again whether his opinion is right or wrong here isn't my point. Now, perhaps he is an alt-right loon, and perhaps his views are dangerous. But then why is it that when someone like Bill Maher makes a similar comment (a female teacher and a male student), nothing happens? The media isn't demanding the same action be taken against Maher?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXDrmUJvRmE
    That might be a good example of a media bias I'm not up on that.

    I should have clarified that I was speaking about the comment that the media has been "beyond harsh" to Trump.
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    Re: Mind trapped by - Trump vs Media

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyX View Post
    I don't get it.

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    That might be a good example of a media bias I'm not up on that.

    I should have clarified that I was speaking about the comment that the media has been "beyond harsh" to Trump.
    My bad, I misread what you said. Beyond hard might be a bit extreme; I do think they've been more critical than they have been with anyone else (Republican or otherwise), but I wouldn't say it's entirely unjustified, and in many cases has brought it on himself.
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