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    Re: Republicans Refuse to Defend Us Against Foreign Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyX View Post
    Support that I asked for please. The smart thing to do would be to go out and look for stuff the republicans have done. You're just helping my argument by bloviating.
    Non sequitur

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    Re: Republicans Refuse to Defend Us Against Foreign Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Belthazor View Post
    Non sequitur
    If you'd like to go over what the Russians did and are doing that be a great topic for another thread. It's a given in this thread.
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    Re: Republicans Refuse to Defend Us Against Foreign Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyX View Post
    If you'd like to go over what the Russians did and are doing that be a great topic for another thread. It's a given in this thread.
    Ok, it's given in this thread the Russian's did "something" to attempt to affect our last presidential election.

    We don't know what they did nor how successful they were in this attempt

    What should be the appropriate response be?
    Once we know that, we can judge how far off the mark republican's actually are.

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    Re: Republicans Refuse to Defend Us Against Foreign Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Belthazor View Post
    We don't know how successful they were in this attempt
    Yes we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belthazor View Post
    What should be the appropriate response be?
    and you therefore agree that there should be a response.
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    Re: Republicans Refuse to Defend Us Against Foreign Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyX View Post
    Yes we do.
    Awesome! I have seen nothing on this, what do you have to offer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyX View Post
    and you therefore agree that there should be a response.
    No, I am trying to work within the confines of the Op.

    You claim the Rep's have not responded adequately, so I am asking what would be adequate.

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    Re: Republicans Refuse to Defend Us Against Foreign Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Belthazor View Post
    Awesome! I have seen nothing on this, what do you have to offer?[COLOR="Silver"]
    See the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belthazor View Post
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    You claim the Rep's have not responded adequately
    Nope, see the title of this thread.
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    Re: Republicans Refuse to Defend Us Against Foreign Attacks

    Russia Hacked U.S. Power Grid — So What Will The Trump Administration Do About It? March 23, 2018

    "The government informed electric companies last summer that Russia undertook what DHS calls a "multistage intrusion campaign" against the utilities, using common hacking techniques such as malware and spear-phishing. The hackers were able to to gain access to at least one power plant's control system."

    ""Our energy infrastructure is under attack," Cantwell said. "It's under cyberattack, and we need to do much more to protect it as a national critical asset."

    Cantwell wants the Trump administration to do an assessment of Russian cyberattacks against the electric grid. The Department of Energy is establishing an Office of Cybersecurity, Energy Security, and Emergency Response, which will focus on energy infrastructure security.

    But any retaliation in response to Russia's cyber-incursion would be up to Trump."




    Is it possible that Russia hacked our utility grid and caused the current disaster here in Massachusetts? Perhaps to distract from the Mannaforte announcement?

    If so, and knowing that it happened before and that this is a favored tactic of the Russians, has Trump not protected us?

    This would be an act of war, no? especially since people died?
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    Re: Republicans Refuse to Defend Us Against Foreign Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Belthazor View Post
    Since it is against international law and US tax dollars can not be used for such a purpose by US law, I am convinced the US would not try to influence another country's elections so we are justified in being outraged that a country would try to influence ours (*by allowing some truths to be known about one party only).
    It is quite possible to be outraged about both you know... I think our efforts to interfere in the affairs of other nations is generally reprehensible and ill-conceived. I also think it is important that we take reasonable steps to protect ourselves from such interference.
    Feed me some debate pellets!

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    Re: Republicans Refuse to Defend Us Against Foreign Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigfried View Post
    It is quite possible to be outraged about both you know...
    I don't believe I have suggested otherwise, indeed, the reason for my sarcastic quote was to exemplify Americans trying to take the moral/legal high ground when our own gov't has/tried to assassinate other world leaders, let alone try to "influence" their countries elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigfried View Post
    I think our efforts to interfere in the affairs of other nations is generally reprehensible and ill-conceived.
    I agree in general, though I do see times when it would benefit almost everyone. There have been/are situations where I think it was/is in the best interest of humanity that we intervene, but it shouldn't be our basic foreign policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigfried View Post
    I also think it is important that we take reasonable steps to protect ourselves from such interference.
    Agreed. The threats are many and very real!

    However, we should have a fairly clear idea of what we are responding to, so our response is appropriate, PRIOR to responding, which goes against the spirit of this thread thus far...

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    Re: Republicans Refuse to Defend Us Against Foreign Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Belthazor View Post
    goes against the spirit of this thread thus far...
    In which you'd be completely wrong.
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