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    Re: Elizabeth Warren: Cherokee or Fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by FUTURE
    There's a difference between claiming minority status and claiming that one has NA ancestry based on what their family has told them.
    Yes, the latter doesn't result in being counted by your employer's against their minority count.
    Which is what happened with Warren.

    Quote Originally Posted by FUTURE
    She has pretty much come clean about her statements of having NA heritage, so your claim of "what she is actually doing" is completely false.
    Seems to be revisionist of the past.
    She claimed minority status. .. that is the problem.
    She didn't claim a vague relation to NA 10 generations ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by FUTURE
    I guess you don't have any aspect of your heritage that you and your ancestors are proud of, obscure or not. In any case, this is irrelevant. Her statements about her family's NA heritage being something they were proud of support her belief that she had NA heritage.
    My heritage was beaten out of my grand-parents by the public school system.
    Thank you gov.

    Quote Originally Posted by FUTURE
    She has already explained the reasoning behind her statements regarding her NA heritage.

    Again, the fact that she actually went through with the DNA test proves that her statements about her heritage were not made fraudulently. She genuinely believed that she had NA heritage, and when called on her statements, she provided DNA evidence proving that she does have NA heritage.
    The issue is that it is actually false. Not if she believed it or not.

    I completely believe that she was told she had High cheek bones like NA, therefore she believed she was NA.
    That just makes her stupid, not a deceiver.
    But, now that it is clear she was mistaken, and that she was in fact wrong to claim minority status..
    She should apologize and move on. Her continuing the farce is what would make her claims fraudulent.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren: Cherokee or Fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by MindTrap028 View Post
    Yes, the latter doesn't result in being counted by your employer's against their minority count.
    Which is what happened with Warren.
    Warren isn't her employer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindTrap028 View Post
    Seems to be revisionist of the past.
    She claimed minority status. .. that is the problem.
    She didn't claim a vague relation to NA 10 generations ago.
    She also didn't claim to be a full member of the affiliated tribes

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindTrap028 View Post

    I completely believe that she was told she had High cheek bones like NA
    That's not what she was told. Just the opposite in fact, as previously supported.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren: Cherokee or Fraud?

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren: Cherokee or Fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyX View Post
    She also didn't claim to be a full member of the affiliated tribes
    Warren Claimed to be American Indian in State Bar of Texas Registration

    Using an open records request during a general inquiry... The Post obtained Warren’s registration card for the State Bar of Texas, providing a previously undisclosed example of Warren identifying as an “American Indian.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.1b9a2e7fce98

    She didn't claim to be part Indian. She didn't claim to be mixed race. Warren wrote in her own hand that her race is American Indian.

    I guess she believed the "one drop" rule that used to classify anyone with one drop of "black blood" as black applied to her as an American Indian.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren: Cherokee or Fraud?

    It's really just beyond embarrassing at this point.

    It's one thing to support Warren because of her politics, but people just need to take the "L" on this particular issue and stop making excuses for it.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren: Cherokee or Fraud?

    I was glad to see she apologized to the Cherokee nation over this. I hope she takes a consistent apologetic tone for it.

    I'll always see her as more selfish and out of touch because of it, but it's not a great moral offense to me, especially if she has the wisdom to see the error she made.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren: Cherokee or Fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by evensaul View Post

    I guess she believed the "one drop" rule that used to classify anyone with one drop of "black blood" as black applied to her as an American Indian.
    Perhaps. Are you saying the awareness surrounding this issue hasn't changed since 1986?

    Also, she didn't claim any tribal membership.

    Odd and disconcerting, yes. Not disqualifying by a long shot.
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