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    Re: The soul does not exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Belthazor View Post
    Traveling to Earth is a different deal though. Faster than light or extremely long travel would seem necessary for visitors to Earth.


    Where did this "some form of intelligence" (that created the soulless life) come from? Who created them?

    Your claim is that this "other life" is soulless necessarily. Do you have any support for this?

    Why must it/they be soulless?

    IOW, if this "form of intelligence" can create life why can it not have a soul?
    First, bear in mind we’re talking hypotheticals here. My point was/is that I think it's an assumption that all humans that ever lived or are living have/had souls which I stated after you made the comment “if every human that ever lived had a soul.” All discussion about this point is hypothetical. I don’t mind discussing hypotheticals, it lets the imagination dance.


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    1. Travel to earth from other evolutions may be no big deal for evolutions that may have more knowledge than our current evolution (if they exist).
    2. As far as who created a soulless intelligence (if one does exist); are you familiar with fallen angels?
    3. Why must it be soulless? As I stated earlier, perhaps because souls (spirit) are not for sale.



    But now we are back to God created this universe and all in it.
    When you stated this earlier I agreed to: God created this universe.

    But my physical brain is not me (per you). My mind is not in/of my brain (per you).
    I’m not sure what you’re talking about here. What (per you)? Please provide some context to what you are referencing.

    Are you submitting the human heart is more than a pump, as in an organ of emotion as well?
    From the perspective of the world religion’s sacred text, yes, to God, the heart is much more than a physical self-running pump.
    "The universe is immaterial-mental and spiritual.” --"The Mental Universe” | Nature
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    Re: The soul does not exist

    Quote Originally Posted by eye4magic View Post
    First, bear in mind we’re talking hypotheticals here. My point was/is that I think it's an assumption that all humans that ever lived or are living have/had souls which I stated after you made the comment “if every human that ever lived had a soul.” All discussion about this point is hypothetical. I don’t mind discussing hypotheticals, it lets the imagination dance.
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    Fair enough, I was just trying to figure out where these soulless humans came from. I have never heard anyone make that claim before...


    Quote Originally Posted by eye4magic View Post
    1. Travel to earth from other evolutions may be no big deal for evolutions that may have more knowledge than our current evolution (if they exist).
    2. As far as who created a soulless intelligence (if one does exist); are you familiar with fallen angels?
    3. Why must it be soulless? As I stated earlier, perhaps because souls (spirit) are not for sale.
    1. "Other evolutions" would still have to traverse unfathomable distances and then be able to replicate humans in appearance and behavior. A pretty tall order...
    2. Since God created angels He must have granted them the power to create life?
    3. They should try Amazon.com


    Quote Originally Posted by eye4magic View Post
    When you stated this earlier I agreed to: God created this universe.
    Then He decided what qualities/powers/abilities of the life He created would enjoy.

    Quote Originally Posted by eye4magic View Post
    I’m not sure what you’re talking about here. What (per you)? Please provide some context to what you are referencing.
    "Per you" means this is your point not necessarily a point I am forwarding.
    IOW, you said the human mind is the soul not the brain. So there is no need for a limitation of the brain interfering with God communicating. He could communicate with the soul instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by eye4magic View Post
    From the perspective of the world religion’s sacred text, yes, to God, the heart is much more than a physical self-running pump.
    1. The heart is a muscle. In concept, little difference from any other muscle in your body. It contracts when electricity is applied to it.
    2. What of those that have had a heart transplant or have severely impaired heart? Are those people then lacking the ability of this emotion?

 

 
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