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    Trump Orders Barr to Investigate the Investigation

    Of course, Barr has already made his judgement saying there was "spying". So just a placeholder here to compare with what we already know and the threads concerning the Steele Dossier, the FISA warrants, the Mueller Report, Bruce Orr, etc.

    Saying he wants him to be "fair," President Donald Trump on Friday described why he has given Attorney General William Barr sweeping powers to declassify intelligence as part of his review into how the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election began and the resulting surveillance on the Trump campaign.
    Does it matter how it began? Our intelligence agencies detected the attack so there had to be an investigation, no?

    He referred to long-standing efforts by House Republicans to get the nation's intelligence agencies to reveal what they knew about how the probe began -- an FBI probe that eventually became special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.
    What difference does it make?

    "You know the thing that's interesting about this is that this was handled at a very senior level of these departments. It wasn't handled in the ordinary way that investigations or counterintelligence activities are conducted. It was sort of an ad hoc small group and most of these people are no longer with the FBI or the CIA or the other agencies involved," Barr said on Fox.
    His case to prove.

    “The problem is two-fold: First, as attorney general, Barr… is not naturally situated to have the full scope to know the impact of a declassification decision. He’s not in the best position to assess the potential damage," April Falcon Doss, a former NSA attorney and former Democratic counsel for the Senate’s Russia probe told ABC News.

    "These sources and methods are fragile, perishable and the intelligence community agency who originated the information is best positioned to understand the impact of a particular declassification decision."

    “Second, the AG is a political appointee. He’s already come under a lot of fire for behaving in ways that many have viewed as partisan. So, any decision he makes regarding declassification not only could be influenced by partisan considerations, but is almost certain to be seen as partisan considerations,” she told ABC News.

    The review does not have any criminal implications, and would not involve criminal investigative power, according to one former U.S. Attorney.

    "A criminal probe has as its target end criminal charges. A review, at least initially, does not anticipate criminal charges...," former U.S. Attorney Michael Stern told ABC News.
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    Re: Trump Orders Barr to Investigate the Investigation



    "William Barr has received criticism for his apparent belief that the U.S. intelligence agencies were possibly out of line for investigating foreign interference in the 2016 election. Joy Reid and her panel discuss additional controversial statements the attorney general made in a recent interview.

    FBI expert asks, ‘Why is the attorney general doing interviews?’"
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    Re: Trump Orders Barr to Investigate the Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyX View Post


    "William Barr has received criticism for his apparent belief that the U.S. intelligence agencies were possibly out of line for investigating foreign interference in the 2016 election. Joy Reid and her panel discuss additional controversial statements the attorney general made in a recent interview.

    FBI expert asks, ‘Why is the attorney general doing interviews?’"
    Easy answer. To give political "hacks" something to spout off about!
    But more importantly, to deflect attention away from what is really going WA DC.
    BOTH parties want to keep this "controversy" going to keep the sheeple occupied.
    If/when it dies down, they will find somethin else to keep attention away from the problems they are actually creating and/or ignoring.....

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    Re: Trump Orders Barr to Investigate the Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Belthazor View Post
    If/when it dies down, they will find somethin else to keep attention away from the problems they are actually creating and/or ignoring.....
    I find this political reasoning highly suspect. I know people who are politicians. They do not work across the isle to create political distractions with one another in some grand conspiracy to blind the public. It is a very naive way of viewing politics. You cannot tell the public what to be interested in, they choose that for themselves. There are very predictable elements to what people become compelled by.

    Mostly these kinds of conflicts are easy avenues of criticism from one party to the other in their struggle for power. And they fight for power largely to push their own political agendas. Those agendas are driven by public appetite. What corruption and benefits there are from power tend to come in rather petty packages and piggy bank on the overall political winds. Those tend to be driven by influential ideologues who tend to be rich folks, or members of think tanks, or dedicated politicos. But, by and large the politicians are not the ones who drive these changes. They are more like the surfers who ride the waves.

    Everyone has their own ideas for what they think the "real problems" are. There is no broad consensus on that idea.
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    Re: Trump Orders Barr to Investigate the Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Belthazor View Post
    Easy answer. To give political "hacks" something to spout off about!
    That's the point of the thread if you read the first post Barr, the AG is a political hack. Trump shopped around to find one.
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    Re: Trump Orders Barr to Investigate the Investigation

    Trump dossier author Steele gets 16-hour DOJ grilling

    The interview was contentious at first, according to two people familiar with the matter, but investigators ultimately found his testimony credible and even surprising.

    Christopher Steele, the former British spy behind the infamous “dossier” on President Donald Trump’s ties to Russia, was interviewed for 16 hours in June by the Justice Department’s internal watchdog, according to two people familiar with the matter.

    The interview is part of an ongoing investigation that the Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, has been conducting for the past year. Specifically, Horowitz has been examining the FBI’s efforts to surveil a one-time Trump campaign adviser based in part on information from Steele, an ex-British MI6 agent who had worked with the bureau as a confidential source since 2010.

    But the extensive interview with Steele, and the investigators’ sense that he offered new and important information, may dampen expectations among the president’s allies who’ve claimed that Steele’s sensational dossier was used improperly by the bureau to “spy” on the campaign.

    Page had been on the FBI’s radar since 2013, when he interacted with undercover Russian intelligence agents in New York City. A trip to Moscow in the summer of 2016 further aroused the bureau’s suspicions, according to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant the FBI got approved in October 2016, allowing the bureau to intercept his electronic communications.

    Steele’s defenders have noted that the information he provided which made it into the FISA warrant application to monitor Page was not far off. According to Steele’s sources, Page met with high-level Russian officials while in Moscow in July 2016, including the CEO of Russia’s state-owned oil giant Rosneft.

    Page denied the claim publicly until pressed under oath by lawmakers in 2017, when he acknowledged meeting “senior members of the presidential administration” during his trip, as well as the head of investor relations at Rosneft. Page had originally claimed only that he went to Moscow to give the commencement address at the New Economic School.

    I think this is a different probe than the DoJ hack investigation. Regardless, it's turning up nothing.
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    Re: Trump Orders Barr to Investigate the Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by COWBOY
    I think this is a different probe than the DoJ hack investigation. Regardless, it's turning up nothing.
    Until that statement is a past tense thing. Where the investigation is concluded. Its pretty much meaningless.
    It isn't that difficult to be patient and wait for this stuff to play out.

    Also, I wouldn't really expect his interview to be some bomb shell about the FBI's actions.. because he wasn't the one involved in that. I mean short of an actual conspiracy with Russia and the FBI with this guy as the messenger. Other than that.. what did Steele even do wrong? So what could turn up or develop?
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    Re: Trump Orders Barr to Investigate the Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by MindTrap028 View Post
    Until that statement is a past tense thing. Where the investigation is concluded. Its pretty much meaningless.
    It isn't that difficult to be patient and wait for this stuff to play out.

    Also, I wouldn't really expect his interview to be some bomb shell about the FBI's actions.. because he wasn't the one involved in that. I mean short of an actual conspiracy with Russia and the FBI with this guy as the messenger. Other than that.. what did Steele even do wrong? So what could turn up or develop?
    That's not the story I've heard. Basically that Hillary paid this guy to make crap up.
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