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    Thumbs up an abortion of the lesser classes

    Ok this is a disclaimer*****, im not entering thid debate for the sake of racism, its me thinking.*****
    in the bible, to get rid of the jews the egyptians killed the babies (Male) heres a proposal: say that all the bastard fetuses' from lower class america ( mainly black, but some other races) were aborted, would the rate of crime poverty and godforsaken rap music/ drug use(xcluding weed) go down signifigantly? heres my stance: i think it would the population of those bad ass children in the ghettos of america would go down, and thi would be a better country, i know this is controversial, lets debate /\
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser races

    Quote Originally Posted by Bf55
    Ok this is a disclaimer*****, im not entering thid debate for the sake of racism, its me thinking.*****
    in the bible, to get rid of the jews the egyptians killed the babies (Male) heres a proposal: say that all the bastard fetuses' from lower class america ( mainly black, but some other races) were aborted, would the rate of crime poverty and godforsaken rap music/ drug use(xcluding weed) go down signifigantly? heres my stance: i think it would the population of those bad ass children in the ghettos of america would go down, and thi would be a better country, i know this is controversial, lets debate /\
    Are you proposing that we kill every male baby of people below a certain income level..or just male babies of dark-skinned people below a certain income level?

    Do you realize how perverted and evil a statement like yours is?

    Are you serious, or are you trying to earn more neg rep. points?.

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    Re: an abortion of the lesser races

    Well obviously crime would go down to some degree if all bastards were aborted, because the population would go down. But the killing of thousands of unborn would be a grave evil. Although this is already happening every day, and many here support it, and I'll wager that most of the people who respond outraged to this thread won't even realize that. Sad, really.

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    Re: an abortion of the lesser races

    ok, we persuade the mothers to do it we dont force it, and spart isaid all below a income level not 1 race or skin color
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser races

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus
    Are you proposing that we kill every male baby of people below a certain income level..or just male babies of dark-skinned people below a certain income level?

    Do you realize how perverted and evil a statement like yours is?

    Are you serious, or are you trying to earn more neg rep. points?.

    He just earned one from me. Gosh, Bf55, what a shocker!
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser classes

    lol u haven't seen every side of me, if u think tis just a thought
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser races

    Quote Originally Posted by Bf55
    ok, we persuade the mothers to do it we dont force it

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    Exclamation Re: an abortion of the lesser races

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus
    Are you proposing that we kill every male baby of people below a certain income level..or just male babies of dark-skinned people below a certain income level?

    Do you realize how perverted and evil a statement like yours is?

    Are you serious, or are you trying to earn more neg rep. points?.
    all im saying is that we could persuade those mothers too do it and give them free abortions,besides they'd just end up having kids with no role models that deal drugs, kill people, etc, im not saying 1 race, JUST THINK ABOUT IT RATIONALLY!!!!! /\
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser races

    Quote Originally Posted by Bf55
    all im saying is that we could persuade those mothers too do it and give them free abortions,besides they'd just end up having kids with no role models that deal drugs, kill people, etc, im not saying 1 race, JUST THINK ABOUT IT RATIONALLY!!!!! /\
    Such women, and even girls can already obtain aborions free of charge.

    Oddly the same peple who offer free abortions are outraged when a group offers to pay unmarried women on welfare and/or on drugs, who already have at least one child, to undergo sterilization or receive a norplant device.

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    Re: an abortion of the lesser classes

    lol, i need proof spart, this si a debate, not me racistly arguing
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser classes

    Bf55, do you really think that this is a viable debate or are you just trying to annoy people? If the former is true, then your argument sounds like something from the 1000 monkeys with typewriters in the room down the hall. If the latter is the case, then you are facing an official warning for trolling.

    The argument is absolutely ridiculous. There is no way that you will be able to convince even a significant minority of low-income pregnant women to have abortions if they weren't going to have them already, and suggesting the idea publically would be political suicide of epic proportions for any politician stupid enough to mention it.
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser classes

    wat did usay and wat is trolling?
    i think tis a good debate
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser classes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bf55
    Ok this is a disclaimer*****, im not entering thid debate for the sake of racism, its me thinking.*****
    in the bible, to get rid of the jews the egyptians killed the babies (Male) heres a proposal: say that all the bastard fetuses' from lower class america ( mainly black, but some other races) were aborted, would the rate of crime poverty and godforsaken rap music/ drug use(xcluding weed) go down signifigantly? heres my stance: i think it would the population of those bad ass children in the ghettos of america would go down, and thi would be a better country, i know this is controversial, lets debate /\
    Would crime go down? That depends, do we consider Abortion to be a form of murder? 'Cause if we do, I daresay murder rates would SKYROCKET(In flight, afternoon delight) under your proposed plan.
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser races

    Quote Originally Posted by Bf55
    ok, we persuade the mothers to do it we dont force it, and spart isaid all below a income level not 1 race or skin color
    Below a level of income? How much do you make a year? Should that be the standard? If situations beyond your control force you out of a job for an extended period of time, does that mean your future child should be aborted?
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser classes

    BF is borrowing the topic based on what Bill Bennett blurted out.

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    If we would kill every black baby born in the US. The crime rate most certainly would go down. Of course that would be an unthinkable and a horrible notion. BUT, the crime rate would go down."

    Had he not added that ending "but the crime rate would go down." He should have stopped after he made his point. Instead, like many politicians, he just had to stick his foot in his mouth....................

    To even bring up (and he continues to refuse to apoligize) the idea of killing babies born to blacks I believe, reveals a part of Bennett that shows his near-sighted manner of thinking. He should have never made the statements by singling out one race. Even had he said "If we abort all babies born to parents who live in poverty." He STILL would have been pummled by the press....but this administration rewards cronism, not one's ability to get things done.......he'll get a pass..........:O)
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser classes

    I actually think he is trying here..Let's play like he is. Let's give him a chance.
    I don't think Abortion is the answer, but I think prevention is. I think in countries were we provide forgein aid to the starving, there should be some sort of mandatory 5 year birth control given. It should be agreed upon with the aid. Why produce more children, that will only suffer as a result of having parents that can not provide for themselves.
    I also think we should provide the same thing to US welfare recipiets. Mandatory drug and alcohol screenings as well as a 5 year form of Birth Control.
    There are many flaws in this idea. It would also be taking away rights and religious freedoms of some..But I think in the long run, it is more logical than murdering the unborn. The idea is slightly "Hitlerish."

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    Re: an abortion of the lesser classes

    BF55, this topic is sheer brilliance and you have made my day.

    I know I'm going to die for this, but I cannot miss this one. BF55, YES, after commiting a horrible crime as all those abortions, over time I think that if you abort black babies, that crime would go down, as well as rap. Here is an actual statistic that I found, and it's very clear where most crime comes from...



    So, according to facts, which is hilariously sad, you might be right BF.
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser classes

    i told u read the first post, this is saying what if, sk is right im not saying do this im just pointing!!!!!** and look, this crime would go down, i dont care about any other factor, im not saying do it thats a ll i want to =proe, and i didnt say only 1 race either, i mean all undr a certain level, unfortunetly those babies would be predominatly black....
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser classes

    I'm shocked that this thread went this far but I guess I have to say that Tink's response to prevention seems pretty practical.....but only if the woman is willing. I don't think anyone should be forced to do that, unless of course, they are found mentally or stably unsound (stably meaning drug addict, alcoholic, etc.). And I don't think there should be a set period of time (referring to the 5-year period mentioined) because someone might be able to get their **** together within that period of time. Who's to make that decision though? I don't know.
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    Re: an abortion of the lesser classes

    Strangely enough, dictatorships also tend to lower the crime rate. I'm sure you will find that Iraq under Saddam Hussein had a lower crime rate than it did now. A low crime rate is one of many factors that contributes to a working society, human rights is another.
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