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Poll: Do you have, or want children?

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    Do you have, or want children?

    Xan's thread about neighbors sparked my interest. In his list of what non religious people do he put "Have fewer children and more animals." To me that reeks of saying not having kids is a bad thing. So I wanted to see the breakdown in who wants or has children between non religious and religious.

    ETA: Good grief my computer went whacky when posting this give me a moment to fix it, lol.
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    Uhm....

    I have kids, but my religion is 'other' because I suscribe more to the precepts of Deism than anything else...
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    I think that it referred to a stereotype that people without kids are more likely to be partiers or something. Granted, it's a weak argument. I'd rather have neighbors with no kids than neighbors with an undisciplined flock of kids running rampant around the neighborhood. But if someone has none or 10, that doesn't impact me...as long as it's not in my backyard....hehehe.
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    I'd like to have kids, but at the same time, I'm a believer in what my dad used to say, "It doesn't matter who gives birth to the child, it's who raises it that matters."

    I'd just as soon adopt as I would have one of my own blood.
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    I'm not religious and I've got a few! But they're well-behaved little girls; just a little rambunctious is all (they're small!).
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    Hyde when I say have kids, adoption is included in that also, as is any other legal way of having them.
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    Uh, there's no option for religious and want kids eventually. Only for "have kids".

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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    I have two great sons and grandson, I would have liked a daughter or grand-daughter, but not yet it seems. The reason for calling a halt at two sons is that my wife's dysfunctional childhood was beginning to throw up far too many problems. It would not have been fair on the children or on her. Despite things, 'damage limitation' has allowed the boys to grow up remarkably well belanced about life. I feel that if we had more children that 'much needed quality individual time' I spent with them may have suffered, causing problematic outcomes.
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    In a Catholic marriage, the couple vow to accept children willingly from God. So, in a true Catholic marriage, there is no question as to whether they will have children or not. If it is God's will the couple will(that includes God's will for adoption should the couple be infertile.

    I personally feel that having children is good for a marriage and teaches us a lot about what's important in life.

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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    There's also no option for "Have kids, but DON'T want the rotten little bastards".

    I voted "Non-religious and undecided".

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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    KB sorry about that. I meant to have the option be (non) Religious and have/want kids.
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    sam:
    I personally feel that having children is good for a marriage and teaches us a lot about what's important in life.
    Finally! A statement we both can agree on!....Unfortunately there are a lot of bad marriages that should not include raising children......:O)
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie
    Xan's thread about neighbors sparked my interest. In his list of what non religious people do he put "Have fewer children and more animals." To me that reeks of saying not having kids is a bad thing. So I wanted to see the breakdown in who wants or has children between non religious and religious.
    Another thing to consider is at what age different people start having children. It's been my impression that reilgious people get married earlier and have children earlier. If this is the case, then non-religious people would have an extra time period in their early to mid-20s where they do not have children, even though eventually they might end up having close to the same amount. So basically we're talking child-years and not just raw number of children. Among those in the 20-25 year old demographic, non-religious people would be less apt to have a child or two at that juncture.
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanadu Moo
    Another thing to consider is at what age different people start having children.It's been my impression that reilgious people get married earlier and have children earlier. If this is the case, then non-religious people would have an extra time period in their early to mid-20s where they do not have children, even though eventually they might end up having close to the same amount. So basically we're talking child-years and not just raw number of children. Among those in the 20-25 year old demographic, non-religious people would be less apt to have a child or two at that juncture.
    XM, I'd be interested in seeing something that you've got to back up any of these demographics you're coming up with--only because thus far it would seem as though you've been pulling them solely from your 'impressions'.

    As an aside, though, I'm A)non-religious, B) 24, and C) mother to 3 children.

    Most of the people I know who have kids, also fit that general description (non-religious, young, multiple children). The religious people that I know are the ones without kids, or who are 30 and up, with only one child in the same class as my daughter.
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    Sure, I would like to have kids, they are both innocent and cruel, but yeah, I would like to have some of those buggers. But why not, it'll be another adventure I'm sure and a great experience; much fun, and much pain, it's all part of life, I look forward to it.
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie
    Xan's thread about neighbors sparked my interest. In his list of what non religious people do he put "Have fewer children and more animals." To me that reeks of saying not having kids is a bad thing. So I wanted to see the breakdown in who wants or has children between non religious and religious.

    ETA: Good grief my computer went whacky when posting this give me a moment to fix it, lol.
    Having children is an important facet of life for lay people in every major religion. "Go forth and multiply" and all that.

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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrs_innocent
    Most of the people I know who have kids, also fit that general description (non-religious, young, multiple children). The religious people that I know are the ones without kids, or who are 30 and up, with only one child in the same class as my daughter.
    People have ups and downs in their religious life. People in their 20s still tend to think they are immortal and tend to not be very religious. Wait until you start hitting middle age...people tend to re-discover their faith or start a journey to find one. I think it all has to tdo with parents dying, some contemproaries having passed away and realizing half your life is gone.

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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spart
    I think it all has to tdo with parents dying, some contemproaries having passed away and realizing half your life is gone.
    I think it has nothing to do with parents dying. In fact, I would venture to guess it drives a lot of people to question their religion, and "loving G-d".
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus
    People have ups and downs in their religious life. People in their 20s still tend to think they are immortal and tend to not be very religious. Wait until you start hitting middle age...people tend to re-discover their faith or start a journey to find one. I think it all has to tdo with parents dying, some contemproaries having passed away and realizing half your life is gone.
    Well, I certainly can't speak for anyone else, but I know I'm not immortal. Come to think of it, if ever there was a time when I did believe anything even similar, it was probably around age 16-17. 12-15 were spent suicidal (that's all been resolved, btw), and 18-present (and future) have been spent being wife and mommy.

    I just realized that I'm answering this with no real reason why. I'm not entirely sure how your statement relates at all to my statement you quoted...
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    Re: Do you have, or want children?

    Hey Spart - At nearly 60, I am a lot closer to my 'buffers' than you are to your's methinks.

    Yes, when most of your life is behind you, you tend to think about what you may have achieved, that physical 'immortality' you may have invested in your children, and what is 'around the corner' for you.
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