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    But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.
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    Re: Essential Readings.

    Have you read all these?
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    Re: Essential Readings.

    Quote Originally Posted by sylouette
    Have you read all these?
    Oh god no I haven't read all of them.

    There's WAY too much to read there. But that's just a booster pack of novels, essays, philosophical writings, etc. to help with any philosophy debate.
    But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.
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    Re: Essential Readings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Hyde
    Oh god no I haven't read all of them.

    There's WAY too much to read there. But that's just a booster pack of novels, essays, philosophical writings, etc. to help with any philosophy debate.
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    Re: Essential Readings.

    Can we add to this list?

    Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning, while often credited as autobiographical and more psychological in nature, its existential flavor is a wonderful addition to a philosophical library. That book changed my life.
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    Re: Essential Readings.

    Quote Originally Posted by HappyLady
    Can we add to this list?
    Absolutely. I tried making it a sticky so it wouldn't be lost. *hint hint*

    But yes, please add to the list. Think of it as a growing ODN library....which may help for future Book CLub Discussion.
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyLady
    Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning, while often credited as autobiographical and more psychological in nature, its existential flavor is a wonderful addition to a philosophical library. That book changed my life.
    If you can find an E-text of it, please add it.
    But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.
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    Re: Essential Readings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Hyde
    Waiting for Godot.

    Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead.

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    Feel free to PM me if you have questions about Austrian economics or Anarcho-Capitalism as a political system.

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    Re: Essential Readings.

    I'd like to add the works of Robert A. Heinlein.

    RAH was a literary genius who managed to inject a well-reasoned philosophical position - which continued to evolve throughout his lifetime - into his numerous works of very entertaining fiction.
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    Re: Essential Readings.

    A good philospohical book for children is 'Sophie's World' by Jostein Gaarder, it's a good introductory to philosophy for those that find philosophy hard to swallow.

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    Re: Essential Readings.

    Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead.
    Oh, gtf over post modernism. It's so 1999.

    Necessary reads?

    Wow, I think I've done this list before, but here goes:

    The Divine Comedy, Dante Aligheri
    Paradise Lost, John Milton
    Beowulf
    Rape of the Lock, Alexander Pope

    [In that order]

    Wealth of Nations, Adam Smith

    Capitalism and Freedom, Milton Friedman

    Fear and Trembling, Soren Kierkegaard

    Summa Theologica and Summa Contra Gentiles, St. Aquinas

    Confessiones, St. Augustine

    Federalist Papers

    Anything ever written by John Donne

    The Count of Monte Cristo, Alexandre Dumas

    Scaramouche, Rafael Sabatini

    Captain Blood, Rafael Sabatini

    I, Robot series and Foundation series, Isaac Asimov

    1984, George Orwell

    Great Expectations, Charles Dickens

    Pride and Prejudice, and Emma, by Jane Austen

    The Bible

    The Koran

    Ethics, Dietrich Bonhoeffer



    Oh, and:

    Dianetics, L. Ron Hubbard.

    Just kidding.
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    Re: Essential Readings.

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    Oh, gtf over post modernism. It's so 1999.
    Pompass, much?

    As for the rest of that list, I'm shocked I've read quite a few of them.

    I'd also like to suggest the collected poems of Ella Wheeler Wilcox.

    I also think that it is very worth one's while to read Slouching Toward Gomorrah, by Robert H. Bork (yes, I'm sure some of you know exactly who Bork is). Very interesting interpretation of the effects of liberalism in America.
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    Re: Essential Readings.

    Pompass, much?
    Err, it was supposed to be funny. And it isn't pompous to call post modernism a load of carp that any 2nd-year English major could have come up with.
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    Re: Essential Readings.

    Quote Originally Posted by CliveStaples View Post
    Err, it was supposed to be funny. And it isn't pompous to call post modernism a load of carp that any 2nd-year English major could have come up with.
    The thing about trends was never creating them, but getting others to buy into them

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    Re: Essential Readings.

    Quote Originally Posted by CliveStaples View Post
    Err, it was supposed to be funny. And it isn't pompous to call post modernism a load of carp that any 2nd-year English major could have come up with.
    Ha-ha... It just seems to me that you target one particular person's posts, every chance you can, and act like an A**, hence the misspelling of the word. I should have made that more clear... I apologize.

    For some reason, though, your humor doesn't seem to translate very well in this particular medium. Maybe a more effective use of smilies would help clear up that misunderstanding.

    That having been said, seriously, check into to Slouching Toward Gomorrah, Clive, I swear, it would be right up your alley.
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    Re: Essential Readings.

    I'm taking a course in contemporary (19th and 20th century) philosophy this semester, and these are the required readings:

    Matter and Memory, Henri Bergson

    Philosophical Investigations, Ludwig Wittgenstein

    Language, Truth and Logic, AJ Ayer

    The Postmodern Condition, Jean-Francois Lyotard

    Aporias, Jacques Derrida

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    Re: Essential Readings.

    Quote Originally Posted by CliveStaples View Post
    [regarding Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead] Oh, gtf over post modernism. It's so 1999.
    WTF are you talking about? R&C are Dead is an existentialist / absurd play dating back to 1966.


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    Re: Essential Readings.

    WTF are you talking about? R&C are Dead is an existentialist / absurd play dating back to 1966.
    It's post-modernist. It's about confusion, barriers of communication, misunderstanding, etc. I've read it, I'm familiar with much of Stoppard's work.

    Richard Dawkins - The God Delusion
    Good book.
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    Re: Essential Readings.

    R&G are Dead is post modernist in the sense that anything that doesn't spoon feed a plot to its audience can be construed as "post-modernist". The term is so broad as to be almost useless... and I still don't get what you mean about "1999". The film came out in the beginning of the 90's, not the end. The play is from the 60's and based heavily on Waiting for Godot.

    Good book.
    Did you read it before or after you read The Watchmen?

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    Re: Essential Readings.

    Dang, I am better read than I thought. Read or in good part read over half of that lot! I think I may well give HL's offering a thumb through next time I visit one of the bigger bookshops in town or the central library next.

    When it comes to Dawkins I agree with much of his thesis and anti-thesis, but as usual we tend to have a bit of a 'falling out' somewhere in the area of the conclusion.
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