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    Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    Democrats and their very...short...memory...

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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    Oh, Freddie...whathisname. My dad plays that record all the damn time.
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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    So because the opposition was expertly manipulated, they are what? They where wrong in there accusations, but Bush was wrong about his, and he took us to war. He has the burden of his choices to bear.
    I see nothing interesting here except perhaps the most blatant example of partianship I've seen in a while. Democracts, like republicans, are human and they are wrong sometimes. Surprise, surprise.

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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    Manipulated? Many of those beliefs stem back from the 90's under Clinton? Did Clinton manipulate them?

    Also, it isn't the case that Dems cannot be wrong. It is the case that these particular Dems have blasted Republicans in their claims of WMD's, when they TOO believed them. It's one thing to have said "I never believed there were WMD's, and those who do are nutjobs". It's another thing to have held the same position and ignore that position in order to deceive the public and attack the opposition.

    It's hypocritical TF.
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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    I still like the Democrats better, but a horse of a different color is still a horse.

    Why is this in shooting the breeze?
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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    Quote Originally Posted by Apokalupsis View Post
    Manipulated? Many of those beliefs stem back from the 90's under Clinton? Did Clinton manipulate them?
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    I do not know. I lack knowledge of that time. Saddam may very well have had WMDs in the 90s. He may have had them as we invaded the second time.
    But the evidence provided by Bush was crafted to appear more convicing then it was. Our war-delirium, or less likely, malicious intent, caused us to see what wasn't there, to the point we went to war over it. Bush at best did nothing to stop this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apokalupsis View Post
    Also, it isn't the case that Dems cannot be wrong. It is the case that these particular Dems have blasted Republicans in their claims of WMD's, when they TOO believed them. It's one thing to have said "I never believed there were WMD's, and those who do are nutjobs". It's another thing to have held the same position and ignore that position in order to deceive the public and attack the opposition.

    It's hypocritical TF.

    Perhaps. But those quotes would be more useful if given a date. I'm pretty sure at one point Saddam did have WMDs.
    People will do what they will to save there skins. They should be called liars if they lie, and given the appriopriate distrust. But to blast the entirety of the Democratic party, I do not condone.

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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    Quote Originally Posted by Turtleflipper View Post
    Perhaps. But those quotes would be more useful if given a date.
    The quotes do have dates. Each quote shows who said it and when they said it.
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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    Yes, Saddam was one of the worst tyrants of the 20th-21st century, and there was some stiff competition. The Democrats recognized this. Yet, they don't seem to have any recollection of their pre-war comments.

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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    Quote Originally Posted by Snoop View Post
    I still like the Democrats better, but a horse of a different color is still a horse.

    Why is this in shooting the breeze?
    Because I offered no thesis or argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtleflipper View Post
    Perhaps. But those quotes would be more useful if given a date. I'm pretty sure at one point Saddam did have WMDs.
    ...they WERE given a date. What are you talking about?

    People will do what they will to save there skins. They should be called liars if they lie, and given the appriopriate distrust. But to blast the entirety of the Democratic party, I do not condone.
    I'm blasting the LEADERS of the Democratic Party that did this. Obviously, you, if you are a democrat, didn't. You aren't in the video.
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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    Quote Originally Posted by Turtleflipper View Post
    I'm pretty sure at one point Saddam did have WMDs.
    So am I, considering Saddam committed the largest chemical weapon attack in modern history when he killed thousands of his own Kurdish citizens with sarin, VX and mustard gas in 1988 in Halabja.

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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Hyde View Post
    The quotes do have dates. Each quote shows who said it and when they said it.
    Haha, cool. I retract the statement in awe of my own blindness. Apparently the bottom of the screen was invisible to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apokalupsis View Post
    I'm blasting the LEADERS of the Democratic Party that did this. Obviously, you, if you are a democrat, didn't. You aren't in the video.
    Well, if they do as you accuse, I can only ask in the future your expousing this type of thing is accompanied by less irritating music.
    Last edited by Turtleflipper; September 28th, 2006 at 07:55 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    The majority of the video makes a solid case, but you can tell that some of those comments did have some partisan tailoring. A lot could depend on context.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turtleflipper View Post
    Well, if they do as you accuse, I can only ask in the future your expousing this type of thing is accompanied by less irritating music.
    Yeah, really, the music was very annoying .

    A less analytical but more entertaining video:

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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    Quote Originally Posted by Apok
    Democrats and their very...short...memory...
    Weak. Essentially a video for confused conservative blowhards.

    This one's way better:


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    Re: Democrats...the "Great Pretenders"

    In today's politics, so mudied up that all parties seem to share the same faults at different times, makes me proud to be independent from all parties, even the one I align most closely with. (Libertatians)
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